Honda NSX II (Spy)

[simonepietro]

brutte notizie, pare che il progetto continuerà il suo sviluppo ma senza celerità. il tutto pare spostato al 2011. Quindi, niente al prossimo salone di tokio.

[Matteo B.]

non hanno le idee chiare.

l'idea del v10 anteriore con 4wd è una cazzata immane e credo che glielo abbiano fatto notare

[<angel84>]

Meglio. Preferisco non vedere proprio una nuova NSX anziché vedere un mito sputtanato da un'auto con motore anteriore e trazione intregrale che ha poco a che vedere con l'auto originale.

[lorenz82]

Meglio. Preferisco non vedere proprio una nuova NSX anziché vedere un mito sputtanato da un'auto con motore anteriore e trazione intregrale che ha poco a che vedere con l'auto originale.

nn vederla mi dispiacerebbe, ma nn capisco xke abbiano dovuto stravolgere il concetto dell'originale...

[JOKEJOE]

Mi piace di piu' quella alla sua Sx...chissa che roba e'?

[Alessinho]

Toh hanno allungato l's2000.

[Touareg 2.5]

Video!

[Touareg 2.5]

Si vocifera che Honda presenterà un concept della NSX a Tokyo..

[simonepietro]

l'ho letta pure io. Prima no e poi sì, che si decidano una buona volta

In the past few weeks we heard a lot about the NSX: first coming and then not coming to the Tokyo Motor Show. And now, it looks that indeed Honda will bring the next, more serious evolution of the all-wheel drive NSX this month as a very last minute press day ‘surprise.’

The NSX will be a prestigious 2+2 high performance model, powered by a V10 engine producing around 550 hp and priced around $150,000. It will be revealed in 2011 as a 2012 model.

The NSX will be a serious competitor for the Nissan GT-R and lexus LF-A.

[Matteo B.]

Novità da Mag-x

NSX ARTICLE

Here is all I can tell you from the NSX article, which if true, sounds quite interesting.

- Their main claim is that Honda's super-car is indeed back to the design board, aiming to be a true NSX successor in mid-ship configuration. From then on, they get to talk about everything that has been said/seen over the past years about it.

In short, Honda first aimed too low for today's standards (HSC), then went too far imposing a V10 engine that led to a car that may not be what Honda stands for. For that reason they have decided to get back to their roots, but the problem is, "what are we going to do with Fukui's promised V10"?

In detail:

- The idea of the next supercar idea was born with the likes of the HSC and DualNote concepts, but those were dropped because they weren't ambitious enough, considered unable to go well beyond the NSX.

- Then, Honda decided on a V10, and with it came the problems. It started with the packaging difficulties, and how they struggled to achieve an agile car with good weight distribution and balance, needing to use a trans-axle tranny configuration (with front-engine and tranny in the back of the car) to make the nose as short as possible. Basically, they tried to build the car around the V10 engine, which resulted in the ASC's long-nose and forced the need for SH-AWD. That's what the S2000 mule was testing in the Nurburgring.

- According to Mag-X, they actually succeeded in making the car as fast as they would have wanted it to be, but then arose the doubts over the targeted market for such car: who was going to buy it, and what was it supposed to stand for. Apparently, those doubts became important enough to re-open the door to other points of view..

- Then came a design team with a simple idea: "isn't Honda's aim to build a real supercar with "gracious" dynamic capabilities?". Well, looks like they've got their chance to raise the challenge once more, and that may have been one of the main reasons for the whole Acura plan in Japan to turn around.

- Mag-X quotes them saying that the basis for "a real sports car" is that it should make the most of its tires without wearing them excessively (they briefly mention that nowadays such car would likelly have bigger wheels at the front like SuperGT's, instead of the opposite in the 1st gen NSX). That inevitably brought them back to the mid-ship configuration.

- When getting to the engine, they considered the possibility of using a highly tuned version of Honda's "upcoming V8" (which they claim will be available in next Ridgeline and Legend), with the main interest being development cost savings (as most makers do, even Ferrari with Maserati). As happened with the first gen NSX though, it seems that it would be too much of a compromise in terms of the specific needs for the supercar, and therefore it has been discarded.

- Now, the other problem is "what to do with the already developed 5.0L V10?". They say that engine is simply too big and unnecessary for the mid-ship ultra-light configuration, but Fukui has promised it, so they can't simply put it aside, it needs to find an application.

And that's about all of it, they just end up stating that Honda stands for pursuing innovation, so they seem to be confident on them finding out a solution.

che dire......non hanno ancora le idee chiare (secondo me troppe idee e soldi da spendere..alla fine non sono sempre un bene)....cmq Fukui vuole il Motore v10 anteriore.....credo che alla fine (purtroppo) avremo quella

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