Opel Diplomat (Disegni)

[Touareg 2.5]

Ecco cos'è spuntato su autointernationaal.nl sta mattina..

Qua l'articolo tradotto abbastanza male da freetranslation

The Engelstalige car leaf Car Deliberately report this week that there by Opel problems its with the planned successor of the Omega. The European daughter brand of General Motors had shown a study model at the intended target group and that have but reacted lukewarm to the proposal. Opel self saw the well exam periods: no traditional sedan more to drawer the Omega, but a fancy MPV to drawer the Mercedes-Benz R-class. Future Large Vehicle was the appellation that one at the model had given. Only with name the Britons reacted not enthousiastically to the 7-persons 'FLV'. And actual that is the most important afzetmarkt for the model. In the United Kingdom fights Vauxhall with Ford round the toppositie in the sale statistics, while Opel loses on the German home market always more grounds. Mercedes-Benz falls to get already no longer in and is that Opel will slip down the expectation till the 5e spot, behind Audi and BMW. Thus as the Britons won cannot become for the FLV, then can you it well forget. And that appears to do Opel/Vauxhall now also.

Thus Opel is back by off. Next year July indeed the Insignia will become presented, the successor of the Vectra of which the measure linings do will only little below for that of the earlier named Omega. Only really: it remains a D-segment car, that Opel in the price segment can let play above the 40 thousand Euros no role of meaning. One has in the higher price segment indeed also the Antara, but although that SUV not unreasonably sells is that no cars in spite of on to be. The model has to let work together has made a fixed subscription on the last place in comparisons test, with which the idea of Opel intensively with Daewoo (Chevrolet Captiva) for what concerned niche model, a little promising start. Where lies the future of Opel then well? In the first place naturally in Europe. Fortunately one may the successor of the Astra and Vectra normally self remain develop. The on the car drawing room of Geneva shown 6 cylinder compartment GTC Draft goes nearly certainly in production én there comes a compartment on basis of the next generation Astra. This last model presumable Calibra will be named, follows to stick with which Opel the advice of Autointernationaal. nl round that name not on the larger 6 cylinder compartment. That exemplarily 'must' Monza will be named! But what must Opel have in the segment above the Insignia/Monza? The developments expenses of an entire self-employed developed model cannot or scarcely become terugverdiend; Opel is after all a gather European mark that in other afzetregio’s not or scarcely customers has. There will thus worked together must become, but with who? Blind person fern on the South Koreaanse group partner is be softest said on foolish. The Antara completely is dried in comparisons test after all. Australia then? Ran has since a year the new Commodore that use makes of the so-called Zeta platform. Without already too much adaptations can Opel then also a large, achterwiel driven sedan in its gamut take up. Only yes, is that which the brand necessarily has? Sedans its passé, about that no carrosserietype with which your car buyers go does strangely. And see Opel totally again must begin in the higher segment, is temptation crucial. No, the sedan and more concrete the Omega are cars of the 20ste century. Opel must on missing to a new manner the better earning consumer at self to bind, but where lies the solution?

Bring back Buick'. That was April last year the title of my column in the branchevakblad Automobile Management. In 'automotive' circles, on that were reacted then what lacherig to. Nothing gives, for differently than shampoo brand Head & Shoulders want to do believe, hangs not everything off of a first impression. More strongly yet: cars and ideas that no single habituation demand, are not renewing and original per definition. It is otherwise well understandable that the proposal round Buick in Europe to herintroduceren only habituation demands. After all, if we Cadillac already do not like, what will we then well in it less exclusive and until the imaginations talking Buick must see? Only just in the exclusiviteit, the problem hides. For Cadillac sit prijstechnisch with its total gamut much too high in the tree. Chrysler and Jeep show at that we as Europeans best in an American car want to ride, provided that the price fair is. And the consumer sees to pay really no reason more for a BLS then for the technical identical Saab 9-3. The 300C of Chrysler is on the other hand geliefd. The reason? In every case not the brand image. If we 20 to 25 year back go, then see we that Buick and Chrysler love or more the same status had. Bovengemiddeld, but well accessible. Actual well comparable to Robber. Perhaps a little bit conservative, but well a chique mark with a beautiful life story. In China, SAIC and NAC Robber fought. In that country is Buick also a large success. It is the most important brand of General Motors and see China on the United States after the most important afzetmarkt for cars in the world is, is that not without interest. Although Buick becomes on the home market especially geassocieerd with color spool, is the brand because of the popularity in China a blijvertje. Do and say now self: what you have rather? Well an in China made Brilliance then Geely, or a Buick? Buick is thus a brand with potency, just as Chrysler. Unfortunately has Buick no sedan with Bentley styles in its gamut (300C), but since shorten well a cross-over: the Enclave. Over this model, Autointernationaal. nl has written all various times. In positive sense, for it is a fantastic large, comfortable riding car. The interest on the home market is had 7 turn so large then General Motors ingeschat. Before I restrained already a plea for the taking up of the Buick Enclave through Cadillac/Corvette/Hummer importer Kroymans its sale program. Inquire learned that one in Hilversum what reserves opposite that idea stands. Eén model would be a brand insufficient in the market to set. That sounds will think on the first face logically, but as you after it about, is then that a kulredenatie. After all, view to Cadillac: 6 models, but no of all successful and thus is the brand in Europe a freaked out. Corvette is but one model (and does it well relative good). Hummer is also but an 'on trick pony'. Everything turns good products, think of the weather resurrection of Fiat. Rather one geliefd model, then 10 store daughters. Misery that Kroymans that do not sees. Only perhaps one is also well hesitant in further cooperation with General Motors to invest. The failing of the European herintroductie of Cadillac sees to by both parties for long faces. In Large-Brittannië has General Motors the handle defense in own hand taken and there are signals that this also in Germany will happen. 'As it so must, then can we the just so good self do', as is apparently the reason nation. Thus yes, no Buick Enclave via Kroymans. That is misery, for it is an impressive car. And also not unimportantly: in the last American contentment investigation of J. D. Power ended Buick on a divided first place with … Lexus! General Motors has thus gold in hands. And it is not sin would make as one that in Europe to money. For instance, no: bijvoorkeur under Opel label. The Enclaves is the cross has-over that Opel necessarily! 8 seats are possible, just as four wheel drive through which one is beautiful addition on the Antara. Foresee of a 3.6 liter V6 gas motor, so that montage of the new 2.9 liter V6 dieselkrachtbron of VM Motori (since short for 50% property of General Motors) technically no single problem is.

Thus Opel, try to not to find the wheel self out. Everybody understands that you the investment in an entire self-employed developed exemplarily not back can earn as you the ankle of the European consumer must have. Thus what look can offer your family members you. Buick has the beautiful Enclave, that a full alternative are can for the Volvo XC90, but also for the Chrysler Voyager. Are and you really silly 'no' to say against a model of Lexus quality? Autointernationaal. nl has gotten already a beautiful name for you of attic: Diplomat!

[Jack.Torrance]

Opel Diplomatico.....

[Touareg 2.5]

L'Opel in quanto a nomi non ha mai brillato... Rekord.. Kadett.. Vectra.. Insigna.. Antara..

[Cosimo]

ma non c'era già una skoda diplomat o qualcosa del genere?

[Alby]

Ma si tratta di una sorta di Toyota Sequoia in salsa Opel?

Giusto per continuare con i nomi strani, se l'attuale SUV si chiama Antara, la versione più grossa potevano chiamarla Pikachu... :D:D

[Abarth03]

ma non c'era già una skoda diplomat o qualcosa del genere?

Non mi pare, sicuramente non negli ultimi decenni...

Invece è un ennesimo caso di "riciclaggio" questo nome. Già ad inizio anni settanta era esistita un'ammiraglia Opel con quel nome, posizionata come fascia di mercato al di sopra dell'onnipresente Rekord. Per la cronaca, si trattava di una famiglia di ammiraglie in sostanza identiche come carrozzeria, con poche varianti a livello di dettagli e differenze per lo più su allestimenti e motori. Si trattava della serie Diplomat / Admiral.

Tornando a noi...ma la notizia è sicura o e solo una congettura?

[simonepietro]

io riporto un mio vecchio messaggio che ho posizionato nella discussione vectra /insigna. Avevo deciso di non aprire un altra discussione visto che erano notizie embrionali

secondo ultime notizie il prototipo insignia potrebbe dare alla luce la futura opel omega che non sara quindi una berlina convenzionale ma eventualmente un cross-over.Nulla è ancorà deciso anche se vi sono fitti colloqui interni alla GM che coinvolgerebberò la opel e la Holden, in quanto quest'ultima sarebbe incaricata di svolgere buona parte del lavoro di progettazione e pure di produzione. Il problema pare nascere dal fatto che il marchio australiano deve portare a termine al più presto i progetti relativi alla camaro e impala e quindi avrebbe delle difficoltà a sviluppare un ennesimo prodotto sulla sua piattaforma ZETA ,anche perchè è imminente la partenza dello sviluppo dei modelli futuri della propria gamma.La situazione pare quindi molto fluida.

[D-sign]

ma non c'era già una skoda diplomat o qualcosa del genere?

Non mi pare, ma c'era l'Opel Senator (tanto per rimanere in ambito politico)

[Cosimo]

ho detto una menata.. la diplomat era una dodge, in pratica una di quelle auto (come ad es. le ford) tutte quadrate che avevano i poliziotti in borghese dei telefilms tipo chips o simili . Di solito erano tinta nocciola...

[clrchngr]

Opel Admiral del '38

Opel Admiral (A) del '65

Opel Admiral ( dal '69 al '77