Fiat-Suzuki: nel 2013 Nuovo Sedici/SX4 con motore 1.6 M-Jet II

[Uomo dell'Ovest]

Ma io dico: hanno fatto l'accordo solo guardandosi in faccia? Avranno stabilito dei piani concordati in qualcosa!

[alettone75]

il fatto che 5 membri della famiglia Susuki siano andati fino a Torino per incontrare Marchionne mi fa pensare che si tratti di qualcosa di grosso... non penso proprio siano passati a fare un salutino di ritorno dalla visita guidata alla MoleAntonelliana

[Guest EC2277]

Forse il problema non risiede in quello che hanno concordato ma in quello che, stipulando tali accordi, speravano di ottenere.

[J-Gian]

A pensarla semplice può essere che si tratti di nuovi accordi su prodotti FPT, a farla più grossa potrebbero esserci nuove sinergie per futuri SUV?

[daimlerchrysler]

Fiat, Suzuki discuss partnership expansion

Automakers talk about new SUV for Fiat, diesel engines for Suzuki

TURIN - Fiat S.p.A. and Japan's Suzuki Motor Corp. are talking about expanding their cooperation, despite Fiat rival Volkswagen AG owning a 19.9 percent in the Japanese automaker, two persons with direct knowledge of the matter told Automotive News Europe.

Fiat and Suzuki have industrial partnerships dating back 10 years. Suzuki builds the Sedici small SUV for Fiat in Hungary and produces Fiat diesel engines under license in India.

According to two persons briefed on the matter, Suzuki Chairman Osamu Suzuki offered to build the next generation Sedici for Fiat during a meeting with Fiat CEO Sergio Marchionne in Turin on May 25. Fiat chairman and controlling shareholder John Elkann also briefly participated to the meeting.

Production of the current Sedici, launched in 2005, ends in 2013 and Fiat's product plan, which extends until 2014, does not include a replacement for the model, which is a rebadged version of the Suzuki SX4, Europe's top-selling small SUV.

Fiat is considering replacing the Sedici with a small SUV planned in 2013 by Chrysler's Jeep unit and code-named B-Jeep, but no decision has been made, a Fiat source said.

Fiat has a contract with Suzuki to buy 20,000 units a year of the Sedici. In 2007, Sedici sales peaked to 31,855 units, but since then have been steadily declining, down to 16,505 last year, according to Jato Dynamics market researchers. Suzuki SX4 sales peaked at 50,354 in 2008 but declined to 37,517 units last year.

India plans

In India, Suzuki builds Fiat's 1.3-liter diesel engine. Suzuki also bought rights to build in Japan Fiat's new 2.0-liter diesel engine, but has not started producing it. The SX4 built in Hungary uses 2.0-liter Fiat diesel engines.

According to the sources, Suzuki has asked Fiat for permission to double annual production in India of the 1.3-liter diesel engine to 400,000 units, but Fiat has proposed to build the additional engines for Suzuki in a heavily underutilized, 300,000-units a year engine plant in Ranjangaon, India, which is part of Fiat's joint venture with Tata Motors.

During the May 25 meeting, the two companies also discussed the possibility of Fiat subsidiary Magneti Marelli supplying Suzuki in India with an automated manual transmission system. Marelli currently supplies Suzuki with the engine management control unit for the 1.3-liter diesel engine.

No talks on Brazil

The two sources denied that Fiat and Suzuki discussed cooperating in Brazil, as reported in the Italian media. Fiat has been the No. 1 automaker for combined passenger car and light commercial vehicle sales in Brazil for the past seven years, controlling about a quarter of the market. Suzuki has no industrial and commercial presence in Brazil yet, where private importers sells just few thousand Suzukis a year.

Fiat and Suzuki said the May 25 meeting was simply the usual "courtesy visit" that the Suzuki chairman pays to Fiat when he flies to Europe to chair the annual meeting of Magyar Suzuki subsidiary in Esztergom, Hungary.

The companies declined to comment further.

Read more: http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110601/ANE/110609999/1198#ixzz1O0a0vxbM

[brothersfan]

come suggeritoci da defiant iun un altro topic,i giapponesi potrebbero anche essere interessati al bicilindrico....

[TonyH]

Sono venuti a chiedere il 1.3 m-jet dopo aver provato il fantasmagorico 1.2 TDI?

[alettone75]

staremo a vedere... certo è strano che adesso che son legati a VW abbiano intenzione di rinnovare partnership con Fiat o addirittura crearne delle nuove... l'unica spiegazione potrebbe essere, come accennato da qualcuno, che i rapporti con VW non siano così idilliaci.

[Sifizzirro]

Sono venuti a chiedere il 1.3 m-jet dopo aver provato il fantasmagorico 1.2 TDI?

Parafrasando il claim Fiat del twinair, "quando 4 è meglio di 3"

[nucarote]

staremo a vedere... certo è strano che adesso che son legati a VW abbiano intenzione di rinnovare partnership con Fiat o addirittura crearne delle nuove... l'unica spiegazione potrebbe essere, come accennato da qualcuno, che i rapporti con VW non siano così idilliaci.

Ma potrebbe essere anche mandare un messaggio a VAG, più che una reale intenzione di comprare diesel e bicilindrici da FGA.