[USA/JPN] Nissan Z 2022 (Spy)

[Touareg 2.5]

Per chi non ci avesse fatto caso, Nissan non ha ancora deciso che pesci pigliare con la futura Z.

L'ultima di autocar è la possibilità che sia un crossover

Nissan is preparing a radical sports crossover to bring its famous Z badge back to the masses - and the new model is poised to hit showrooms within the next 18 months.The Japanese brand has been weighing up a variety of options on where to take the famous Z brand as the current 370Z is phased out by 2017. It has considered a higher-powered sports car and a cheaper, more basic four-cylinder model - as previewed by the iDx compact coupé conceptsthat were revealed at the Tokyo motor show in 2013.

However, sources indicate that Nissan has settled on a more radical solution: making the next Z car a small sports crossover. It’s expected to showcase how such a model could look as early as the Frankfurt show next month.

Blog - Is a Z crossover a wise move for Nissan?

An SUV-influenced Z car is likely to infuriate purists, but Nissan believes it can still satisfy a large number of Z fans while also tapping into a huge new customer base, particularly in the US, where the badge has equity and the crossover market far outweighs the sector for small sports cars.

Senior Nissan officials have recently hinted at a rethink on the Z strategy. Earlier this summer, the firm’s chief creative officer, Shiro Nakamura, told Australian media: “I don’t think the 
next one [Z car] is going to be the 390Z. It’s not growing because it’s already big enough. You know, 350 started with 240, 300, 350 and then came 370. I don’t think we should go higher.

“We haven’t yet decided anything about whether next-generation Z should be anything larger or with more power,” he said.

In a clear reference to a switch of vehicle type, Nakamura added: “We 
need to take another path. I feel Z needs more revolution than evolution. I think 
GT-R has to stay the most high-performance symbol 
of Nissan technology and Z 
is a more affordable sports car or a sporty car to get the younger people.”

Nissan executive vice-president Trevor Mann has supported Nakamura’s view. He told Autocar: “We do 
know that Z, as a sub-brand 
if you like, has high equity. 
The market is not like it 
used to be, though, so I 
think that if you do something, you’ll need to do something which is quite special, to attract the segment.”

When asked to comment directly on Nakamura’s statement, Mann said: “If that’s what Nakamura said, then I guess he might be right, in terms of re-establishing the links to something people can connect to.”

That’s likely to be a reference to price. It’s thought the new Z crossover will be notably cheaper than a £30k 370Z and its range-toppers could overlap with the lower-end editions of the Qashqai.

The new Z will be similar in size to the Nissan Jukealthough, unlike the current version of that car, the new model will be based on the Renault-Nissan Alliance’s latest CMF B platform. Its engine line-up will be able to include the full range of 1.6-litre turbocharged petrol engines.

It’s unclear if the new model will be a coupé-esque three-door or if Nissan will include a pair of rear doors with hidden handles. It’s likely that the roofline will compromise rear cabin space for adults, though, making the Z crossover a car with occasional rear seats at best. The more extreme concept, which will be designed to gauge reaction after the Frankfurt show, may even be a two-seater only.

The new platform has the flexibility to accommodate hybrid powertrains, so it’s possible the concept at least will showcase a set-up featuring an electric motor to drive one of the axles.

Nissan is likely to argue that the GT-R has managed to mix strong performance credentials with a rear-biased four-wheel drive system and that a hybrid crossover can provide some of the same character - while potentially also offering zero-emissions running for short distances.

The Z should allow Nissan to compete in the lucrative middle ground on small crossovers, attracting buyers who don’t want as large a car as the Qashqai but who find the Juke too quirky nor not sporty enough.

The demographics of Juke buyers are said to have confounded Nissan product planners. The average age of Juke buyers is in the late 40s, but this is based on really young purchasers and a surprisingly large band of elderly customers.

A Z-badged crossover would also be a legitimate choice of vehicle for the Nismo tuning division. Nissan hopes to extend the sub-brand’s influence with cars like the forthcoming Pulsar Nismo, but senior figures insist it will not be applied to models that don’t allow it to deliver genuine performance credentials.It’s thought the continued strength of Juke sales has allowed Nissan to consider adding a further small crossover to its line-up.

The Juke is expected to evolve for its next incarnation, which will bring a switch to the same CMF B platform as the new Z crossover (and the next Micra) but only mild changes to its exterior styling.

“We think the Juke still looks a really fresh car,” Mann said. “Sales are still really strong and the customer base continues to expand for that type of vehicle. I think that’ll be reflected in what comes next for Juke.”

Il che mi causerebbe non pochi sfoghi cutanei, ulcere e gastrite cronica.

Stando alle citazioni ufficiali tra virgolette, effettivamente vorrebero prendere una nuova strada...

Possibile concept a Francoforte.

[VuOtto]

Una Z crossover?

[Jack.Torrance]

[Pandino]

[SevenOfNine]

Che palle sti gippetti

[kire_06]

Spero che sia una bufala, sennò davvero in casa Nissan dovrebbero fare Harakiri...

[Gibo77]

Mi tengo sempre più stretta la mia 370.

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[superkappa125]

Purtroppo, dal punto di vista economico, han ragione loro.

Queste macchine, a meno che non ti chiami Mazda MX5, non si vendono. Nè da noi, nè oltreoceano, nè (tantomeno) ad est.

E' inutile girarci intorno, 'sti progetti sopravvivono solo con condivisione spinta (Toyobaru/Fiazda) oppure in fasce di prezzo molto molto superiori.

Anche BMW, che pure ha la possibilità di ammortizzare la piattaforma TP su n-mila modelli, è ricorsa alla partnership con Toyota per la prossima Z4.

Modificato 26 Agosto 2015 da superkappa125

[Pandino]

Purtroppo, dal punto di vista economico, han ragione loro.

Sta macchine, a meno che non ti chiami Mazda MX5, non si vendono. Nè da noi, nè oltreoceano, nè (tantomeno) ad est.

E' inutile girarci intorno, 'sti progetti sopravvivono solo con condivisione spinta (Toyobaru/Fiazda) oppure in fasce di prezzo molto molto superiori.

Pure BMW, che pure ha la possibilità di ammortizzare la piattaforma TP su n-mila modelli, è ricorsa alla partnership con Toyota per la prossima Z4.

[kire_06]

Purtroppo, dal punto di vista economico, han ragione loro.

Queste macchine, a meno che non ti chiami Mazda MX5, non si vendono. Nè da noi, nè oltreoceano, nè (tantomeno) ad est.

E' inutile girarci intorno, 'sti progetti sopravvivono solo con condivisione spinta (Toyobaru/Fiazda) oppure in fasce di prezzo molto molto superiori.

Anche BMW, che pure ha la possibilità di ammortizzare la piattaforma TP su n-mila modelli, è ricorsa alla partnership con Toyota per la prossima Z4.

Scusami ma non concordo minimamente.

Queste macchine non si vendono più perché sono diventati dei barconi inutili, che oltretutto montano motoroni da berlinona americana ma che di sportivo e "Fairlady" non hanno davvero nulla..

Se avessero fatto la 370Z con un 2.0 T da vendere in Europa (come perlatro hanno appena fatto in Ford con la new Mustang..) senza farla pesare come il Titanic e inutilmente grande come la versione attuale vedi che ne avrebbero vendute sicuramente molte di più. Infatti se si guarda bene sono gli stessi difetti che si riscontrano nella concorrente più diretta, Genesis coupé che dalla sua ha pure la doppia motorizzazione.

Il problema di 350/370Z è che non sono mai state nulla di preciso, gran macchine questo si, ma ne carne ne pesce. Troppo pesanti e "loffie" per essere delle sportive pure (350Z all'epoca era imbarazzante se confrontata a S2000), troppo scomode/ingombranti/rumorose per essere delle pure GT da "passeggio" (oltre a non avere il "blasone" per competere in questo segmento).

Il tutto IMHO ovviamente