Alfa Romeo Giulia 2015 - Progetto 952 (Notizie - Spy)

[GenLee]

In realtà sì, almeno negli anni tra il 62 e il 65. Se non sbaglio le ultime Giulietta post restyling del 61 montavano il 1300 di Giulia. Erano proposte a listino entrambe, ovviamente la Giulietta costava meno [/quote

Sì ma temporaneo....mi pare lo stesso accadde con Giulia e nuova Giulietta forse per un anno....

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Il ritorno del famigerato Ciferri:

http://europe.autonews.com/article/20150621/ANE/150619816

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Luca Ciferri

Automotive News Europe

June 21, 2015 06:01 CET

TURIN -- Alfa Romeo’s new Giulia midsize sedan, which will be unveiled Wednesday, is crucial to the struggling brand’s revival.

The Giulia will sit on Alfa’s new rear-wheel-/all-wheel-drive Giorgio platform and offer high-performance engines, including a Maserati-derived V-6.

The BMW 3 series rival is scheduled to arrive at European dealerships in February and March next year and in the U.S. a few months later. Alfa may add coupe and spider variants later.

Alfa will introduce newly developed high-performance engines on the sedan to compete better against BMW and Audi. The range-topping 510-hp V-6 gasoline engine with twin turbochargers has been re-engineered from an engine built by Ferrari for the Maserati Quattroporte and Ghibli sedans. The Giulia's core gasoline engine will be a 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder available in outputs of 180 hp, 250 hp and 330 hp.

The top diesel will be a 3.0-liter V-6 currently offered by Jeep and Maserati that is sourced from VM Motori. VM Motori added a new four-valve per cylinder head and a second turbocharger to increase the Alfa version’s output to 340 hp from 275 hp. Alfa will also use a higher output variant of a revised 2.2-liter powerplant just introduced by Jeep and derived from Fiat Chrysler’s 2.0-liter diesel. The engine has a top output of 210 hp but also will be offered in more fuel-efficient 135-hp and 180-hp variants.

The Giulia will be the first volume Alfa brought to market since the MiTo subcompact launched in 2008. An earlier Giulia was Alfa’s best-selling car in the 1960s and 1970s. Alfa parent Fiat Chrysler Automobiles needs the modern Giulia to have similar success to help end years of losses at the brand. FCA does not break out Alfa's financial results, but analysts say the brand has been a huge money loser for at least 10 years.

Code-named project 952 and delayed a number of times in the past four years, the Giulia is the successor to the Europe-only 159 model, which was discontinued in 2011.

Alfa plans to begin Giulia production in November. Two supplier sources told ANE that they fear start of production will be postponed until the end of the year because of quality glitches, delaying the launch until March. One area where the Giulia is far from it set targets is noise, vibration and harshness (NVH), a source said.

The Giulia will be unveiled on the 105th anniversary of the foundation of Alfa as the acronym of Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili. The unveiling will take place at the Alfa Romeo museum in Arese, outside Milan, where the carmaker was based from 1963 until Fiat took over the brand in 1986. Its public debut will be at the Frankfurt auto show in September.

First SUV

Alfa will begin sales of its first SUV, code-named project 949, early 2017. The midsize model will be a rival to the Audi Q5 and BMW X3.

A flagship, large sedan will arrive in late 2017, sources from suppliers involved in the project told Automotive News Europe. Code-named project 961 and set to enter production in mid-2017, the sedan will compete with the Audi A6 and BMW 5 series and replaces the Alfa 166 that was discontinued in 2007.

Hidden under a modified Fiat 500L-body, Alfa's new SUV is pictured undergoing road tests.

Photo credit: Automedia

The three models are the first of eight cars planned under FCA Chief Executive Sergio Marchionne’s strategy to transform the iconic but niche sporty marque into a premium brand capable of challenging BMW and Audi.

Marchionne aims to increase Alfa’s annual global sales to 400,000 by 2018. Last year the brand sold fewer than 70,000 units. Alfa currently sells just two volume models, the Giulietta compact and MiTo subcompact, mainly in Europe

By 2018, about 150,000 of Alfa's planned 400,000 annual global are expected to come from North America.

Missed target?

Alfa Romeo may only reach half its target. IHS Automotive forecasts deliveries of about 216,000 cars in 2018, up from 68,300 last year and 67,500 forecast for this year.

IHS Automotive estimates Alfa will sell about 36,000 Giulias globally next year, with volume peaking at 48,000 units in 2018.

The Giulia and the large sedan, as well as the midsize SUV, will be built at FCA's factory in Cassino, Italy, near Rome. The automaker began retooling the plant last summer and has invested nearly 800 million euros to make the upgrade.

Early this month production of the Giulia began in Cassino to test the newly installed tooling. To maintain secrecy, Cassino’s workers are required to leave their cell phones before entering the assembly line, Italian media reported.

IHS estimates sales of the new SUV will be below 10,000 units in its first year, peaking at 23,000 in 2017. The market researcher sees limited potential for Alfa's flagship sedan, predicting sales will peak at 11,000 units in 2018.

Fiat Chrysler declined to comment on its plans for Alfa ahead of Wednesday's Giulia unveiling.

You can reach Luca Ciferri at lciferri@crain.com.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20150621/OEM/306229964/sergio-to-bmw-audi-here-comes-alfa

[h=1]Sergio to BMW, Audi: Here comes Alfa[/h][h=3]High-risk plan starts with 3 new models[/h]The Alfa Romeo Mito, right, and Giulietta. Fiat Chrysler management is counting on Alfa's relaunch to move the group out of Europe's fiercely competitive mass-volume market and gain a foothold in the fast-growing American luxury market.

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Luca Ciferri

Automotive News

June 21, 2015 - 12:01 am ET

TURIN -- Sergio Marchionne's risky, $6 billion plan to turn Alfa Romeo into a premium brand -- one that can challenge BMW and Audi and end decades of dismal performance -- begins with three new models that will arrive by the end of 2017.

Those vehicles -- and five more scheduled to follow by 2018 -- represent a huge undertaking for Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, although one that may finally be gaining traction.

FCA is set to show its new Giulia midsize sedan this week and will follow with a midsize SUV and flagship sedan, according to supplier sources involved in the projects.

The products are the opening salvos in an effort to overhaul Alfa and increase its global sales from 70,000 vehicles last year to 400,000 by 2018. About 150,000 of the sales goal are expected in North America.

The Giulia will debut in Europe early next year and will arrive in U.S. showrooms between April and June, sources say. It will be followed by a midsize SUV in late 2016 and a flagship sedan in 2017.

The challenge is enormous, and so are the risks for Marchionne. FCA's CEO is counting on Alfa's relaunch to move the group out of Europe's fiercely competitive mass-volume market and gain a foothold in the fast-growing American luxury market.

But there is a long way to go for the brand. Although FCA does not report Alfa Romeo's financial results, analysts say it has been bleeding cash since long before Marchionne joined Fiat 11 years ago.

The broad strokes of the relaunch plan were unveiled by Marchionne in May 2014 and include eight new models between 2015 and 2018, not including the low-volume 4C coupe and 4C Spider.

In January, Marchionne updated the plan. He said one model will arrive in 2015 and seven between 2016 and 2018, but he didn't say in which order they would appear. The eight are:

- The Giulia being previewed this week.

- A full-size sedan -- the project 961 flagship.

- Two SUVs, project 949 and a second one to come later.

- A second midsize model, which sources say may be a large coupe.

- A specialty vehicle, expected to be a two-seat roadster.

- Two compact models, one of which is expected to replace the Giulietta.

But the product cadence will be highly concentrated in the last three years of the five-year plan that ends in 2018, causing some analysts to question whether Alfa Romeo can even get close to its target. IHS Automotive forecasts 2018 sales of about 216,000 cars.

An FCA spokesman declined to comment on Alfa's product strategy beyond what the company announced previously.

This week, Marchionne will preview the Giulia at the Alfa Romeo museum in Arese, outside Milan, where the carmaker was based from 1963 until Fiat took it over in 1986. The June 24 unveiling falls on the 105th anniversary of the founding of Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili, which became better known as Alfa Romeo.

Delayed a number of times in the past four years, the Giulia is Alfa Romeo's first new volume model since the MiTo subcompact was launched in 2008. The sedan will go against the Audi A4 and BMW 3 series, fitting into a space vacated when Alfa's Europe-only 159 was discontinued in 2011. It will debut in September at the Frankfurt auto show.

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[h=3]New architecture[/h]

FCA plans to begin producing the Giulia in November. Still, two suppliers told Automotive News Europe they fear the start of production could be delayed to year end and that European sales might not start before March. A source said one area in which the Giulia is still falling short is noise, vibration and harshness.

The first mule of a heavily disguised Giulia was spotted on June 12 in Italy, with pictures posted to a Facebook page dedicated to the Alfa 952 project.

Spy photographers spotted a mule for Alfa's first SUV last month near Modena, where about 800 engineers are working on the Alfa relaunch, a program code-named Giorgio.

The midsize SUV, code-named 949, is meant to rival the Audi Q5 and BMW X3. Production is scheduled to start in September 2016. Sales will begin two or three months later in Europe, suppliers said.

The Alfa SUV spotted in Modena is based on a Fiat 500L compact minivan, but the wheelbase and overhangs had been lengthened and tracks widened to accommodate all-wheel drive for a much larger vehicle.

Alfa also is developing a full-size sedan as the brand's flagship. The sedan, code-named project 961 and set to enter production in mid-2017, will rival the Audi A6 and BMW 5 series. Alfa's last large sedan, the 166, was discontinued in 2007.

The three Alfas are based on a new rear-wheel-drive/all-wheel-drive architecture developed by the Giorgio team, which is led by former Ferrari engineer Philippe Krief.

Both the midsize and large sedans and the SUV will be built at FCA's Cassino plant near Rome. The company began retooling the plant last summer with an investment close to 800 million euros ($909 million). This month, Cassino began building Giulia units to test the newly installed tooling. To maintain secrecy, workers are required leave their cellphones before entering plant.

Battling Audi and BMW means reconnecting the brand with its sporty heritage, and to do that Marchionne is counting on new high-performance engines, including range-topping gasoline and diesel V-6s.

The top V-6 gasoline engine will have output of 510 hp, suppliers say. The 3.0-liter direct injection unit, with twin turbochargers, has been re-engineered from the unit Ferrari builds for the Maserati Quattroporte and Ghibli sedans.

[h=3]Big spending[/h]

The core gasoline engine will be a turbocharged four-cylinder 2.0-liter direct injection unit called Global Medium Engine. Different versions will produce output of 180 hp, 250 hp and 330 hp and will be mated with manual and automatic transmissions with rwd and awd applications.

Both gasoline engines deliver high specific output with help from FCA's MultiAir variable valve timing technology. They will be produced in FCA's Termoli plant, which has undergone a 500 million euro ($568 million) retooling.

Indeed, the spending has been large-scale on the revival of Alfa Romeo.

Soon after joining Fiat in June 2004, Marchionne called Alfa his biggest challenge and No. 1 headache. Eleven years and four relaunch plans later, it's still a huge challenge. When the Giulia and the new SUV reach the market next year, the headache may begin to subside -- or the famed Italian brand could be eating up billions and delivering not Alfa red vehicles but red ink.

You can reach Luca Ciferri at lciferri@crain.com.

Era un po' che non batteva un colpo.........E all'improvviso, eccolo che risorge dalle nebbie con ben due articoli datati entrambi 21 giugno. S'è svegliato col solstizio

- - - - - - - - - - AGGIUNTA al messaggio già esistente - - - - - - - - - -

I numeri che spara so sempre esilaranti .......

[RVC]

Chissà come si dice "coglione patentato" in inglese...

[Archaon]

Rimango perplesso sulle previsioni di vendita della nuova mid size sedan. Dalle 36000 a 48000 all'anno ?

Il suv 23000 unità annue ?

Bah, un po' pessimisti.

[loric]

Chissà come si dice "coglione patentato" in inglese...

Certified prick.

[T a u r u s]

Rimango perplesso sulle previsioni di vendita della nuova mid size sedan. Dalle 36000 a 48000 all'anno ?

Il suv 23000 unità annue ?

Bah, un po' pessimisti.

Sono previsioni degli analisti di IHS, quelli che nella primavera di 2014 prevedevano che Jeep non avrebbe superato il milione prima di 2016-17, e infatti Jeep ha immatricolato 1.017.019 unita' nel 2014.

FCA ha un target di 100.000 Giulia a regime, il target piuttosto conservativo per il mercato europeo e' di 40-50.000 Giulia/anno.

[RiRino]

Letto stamattina l'articolo di Ciferri e mi sono soffermato più che altro su questo passaggio(il resto sono cose note,inesattezze,ecc..):

Alfa plans to begin Giulia production in November. Two supplier sources told ANE that they fear start of production will be postponed until the end of the year because of quality glitches, delaying the launch until March. One area where the Giulia is far from it set targets is noise, vibration and harshness (NVH), a source said.

da verificare la veridicità,ma tutto può essere.

Di sicuro preferirei che la produzione sia ritardata di qualche mese piuttosto che l'auto esca con qualche carenza evidente.

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Chissà come si dice "coglione patentato" in inglese...

Se non lo sai tu ?!?!?!?!?

[Indav]

Speriamo soltanto che queste promesse non facciano la fine di tutte le altre...che poi in FCA nulla è una promessa, magari mercoledì sale Minghionne sul palco e fa:

"Scusate signori, la vettura non soddisfaceva gli standard poichè alcuni bulloni erano mal posizionati, per cui abbiamo deciso di riprogettare interamente il tutto. Ci rivediamo a novembre 2017 per la presentazione."

[checco72]

Penso che verrebbe preso a sediate