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952/Giulia MCA

 

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vorrei far notare che Ghibli è 30 cm più grande di questa Giulia.

Penso facessero riferimento a Ghibli vs. "Giuliona", seg. E ;) che comunque non credo arriverà a quelle dimensioni, visto che Ghibli è già più lunga delle seg. E più grosse in circolazione (XF, F10, A6 C7).

There's no replacement for displacement.

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Anche tu ti ecciti palpeggiando pezzi di plastica? Perché stare qui a discutere con chi non ti può capire? Esprimi la tua vera passione passando a questo sito!

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Penso facessero riferimento a Ghibli vs. "Giuliona", seg. E ;) che comunque non credo arriverà a quelle dimensioni, visto che Ghibli è già più lunga delle seg. E più grosse in circolazione (XF, F10, A6 C7).

Ah pardonne...

Bhe fondamentalmente non penso che Ghibli possa montare un 2.2 Diesel sopra :D Almeno non ora.

   

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E dopo zio Fester su Top Gear, parola allo "Special Advisor to the CEO" Lorenzo Ramaciotti su motoring.com.au:

Names but no overlaps for Alfa - motoring.com.au

Names but no overlaps for Alfa

Design chief says Alfa must concentrate on key models without treading on Maserati and Ferrari turf

The man behind the look of the new generation of Alfa Romeos and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles' head of design, Lorenzo Ramaciotti, says the Italian marque will concentrate on key markets and avoid clashes with the group's other "sports car brands" with its model roll-out.

In a frank discussion at Alfa's headquarters following the unveiling of the new Giulia on Wednesday night, Ramaciotti told motoring.com.au the brand would "carefully consider" via which body style variants it would expand its range.

Further, he stated the marque had no plans to build a Mercedes CLS-style four-door coupe, would steer away from variants like sportwagons, would use names rather than numbers and letters, and eschew engines larger than six-cylinder.

"We are rebuilding Alfa Romeo from scratch right now and we cannot imagine having a full line-up of cars like some others at the moment," Ramaciotti told motoring.com.au.

"Where there is a four-door coupe in their range, they [other OEMs] also have a four-door saloon. We have taken something in the middle with the Giulia, designing the profile of a coupe but with the space of a sedan," he stated.

Concentration is key for the brand in the early stages of its rebuilding, he suggests. It's for this reason that a reprise of Alfa's sportswagons is not on the cards, instead the brand will launch two crossovers.

"We have to focus on a portfolio of vehicles that are really worth developing on a worldwide basis and can fully sustain the type of investment needed."

"Today, the station wagon is the type of vehicle that is somewhat popular in Europe but is out in both the States and the Far East – the two main markets for us and our cars," he said simply.

Alfa will launch a deluge of new models in the next 18 months if the plans outlined last May are stuck to, but the design chief gave few clues of which of the cars we'll see next.

Whatever it is (we're tipping the mid-size crossover), he says it will get a name, not letters and numbers. He also assured Alfisti the brand is not planning on simple, cookie -cutter styling exercises.

"We want to use full names. We will make the best use of the historical names we have with Giulia and Giulietta... But then since the range will be wider, we will have space for our fantasy [imagination] with new names," Ramaciotti enthused.

"The next car you will see may be close to this one [Giulia] or more distant [in design] because we do not just want to blow-up or down this car in different sizes.

"We will use the same approach and simplicity of the balance of proportions, the quality of the surfaces. This is the main feature... [and it] will be applied to the rest of the cars to make it [the Alfa range] very coherent without 'photocopying' this car on a smaller or larger scale."

What we won't see, even in the medium term, says Ramaciotti, is an eight-cylinder Alfa Romeo. The 67-year-old 'Special Advisor to the CEO' said the company must be careful to avoid "overlaps" with the group's other "sports car brands" – in particular Maserati.

"For the moment, this [a V8] is not to be seen.

"We have to be careful to keep the space for three sports car brands in the market place – Alfa Romeo, Maserati and Ferrari. This has been carefully looked at in the project not to overlap too much between each brand," he stated.

We'll make crossovers not SUVs, says Alfa - motoring.com.au

We'll make crossovers not SUVs, says Alfa

Alfa Romeo won't build an SUV, but two crossovers are key to its success, says design chief

Jeep builds SUVs, Alfa Romeo crossovers. So says the man behind the look of the new Alfa Romeo Guilia and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles' head of design, Lorenzo Ramaciotti.

Speaking at the brand's revamped headquarters at Arese on the north-western outskirts of Milan on Wednesday night, Ramaciotti confirmed FCA's renaissance brand will launch two high-riding vehicles within its current product horizon. But he was also at pains to define the vehicles not as SUVs but CUVs – crossover utility vehicles.

"It is very clear Jeep makes SUVs. It is very clear Alfa Romeo does not call them SUVs, we say CUV. We think of them more as crossover rather than sport utilities," Ramaciotti told motoring.com.au.

"It is a type of vehicle you must have in your portfolio to be successful in markets like China, so we must have them," he stated.

But more than just pumping volume, Ramaciotti believes the crossovers can fit the brand values of the new Alfa Romeo.

"There are already examples on the market, like the Maserati Kubang [Levante], where you can make a good compromise between the stance and practicality of a CUV with the dynamic shape of a sports vehicle," he commented.

Perhaps delivering a clue to the size and layout of Alfa's first CUV, Ramaciotti offered Porsche's Macan as an example of "a very nice looking sports crossover".

"And also Mercedes has shown something similar recently," he said, referring to Benz's recent unveiled GLC concept.

Ramaciotti confirmed the larger of Alfa Romeo's two vehicles would slot in under the Maserati Levante – the production vehicle that draws on Kubang for its inspiration.

"In terms of size, the large size CUV is covered by the Maserati. Alfa Romeo will place its [largest] CUV below that," he told motoring.com.au.

That will make Alfa's biggest SUV – spied here in testing hidden beneath a modified Fiat 500L-body – a direct rival for not only the Macan and GLC, but BMW's X3 and the top-selling Audi Q5.

But neither the scale of the international demand for crossover type vehicles, nor the size of the new Alfa soft-roader, will mean it will move down-market.

"The [Alfa Romeo] brand has to be in the premium segment and we want to compete against the premium manufacturers.

"We don't want to compete in the mass market [with] average cars," he said.

Expect Alfa's first SUV – based on the same 'Giorgio' platform as the Giulia – to go on sale in Europe in late 2016 and, as the company has already confirmed, for it to spearhead Alfa's US market relaunch in 2017.

Ne dice di cosine interessanti......:D

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"In terms of size, the large size CUV is covered by the Maserati. Alfa Romeo will place its [largest] CUV below that," he told motoring.com.au.

That will make Alfa's biggest SUV – spied here in testing hidden beneath a modified Fiat 500L-body – a direct rival for not only the Macan and GLC, but BMW's X3 and the top-selling Audi Q5.

In pratica faranno C e D Suv, non D ed E?

"Chi ti dà una serpe quando chiedi un pesce, può darsi abbia solo serpi da dare. La sua, dunque, è generosità."

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In pratica faranno C e D Suv, non D ed E?

da quanto si legge sembra di si, lasciando spazio a Levante per il seg E-F.

Prendendo ovviamente tutto con le pinze., e' interessanete notare:

- la affermazione che non si faranno piu' prodotti average per il mercato "generalista" quindi confermato il ciao ciao non solo a mito ma anche a giulietta come e' ora

- la affermazione che alfa, maserati e ferrari giustamente non si pestarenno i piedi....

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Ah pardonne...

Bhe fondamentalmente non penso che Ghibli possa montare un 2.2 Diesel sopra :D Almeno non ora.

In verità sembra sia già stato provato in una versione da 200-210cv, come entry level più aggressivo da proporre al posto del 3.0 V6 da 250cv; tra l'altro sembra anche su Jeep Gran Cherokee...

Facciamo un favore a questo mondo... Meno SUV, più 4C e Lotus...

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In pratica faranno C e D Suv, non D ed E?

Non hanno inteso bene le parole di Ramaciotti, il SUV grande Alfa sarà più piccolo di Levante, come Range Sport rispetto a Range Rover, Levante e' un SUV seg.F con prezzi da oltre 90.000 a 200.000 euro si posiziona pari o sopra Range Rover secondo versione.

Il primo ad uscire sarà il SUV più compatto rivale di Q5,X3,Macan,GLK.

seg.D Jeep Cherokee, Alfa "949"

seg.E Jeep Grand Cherokee, Alfa E-SUV

seg.F Jeep Grand Wagoneer, Maserati Levante

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Praticamente Alfa e Maserati non si sovrapporranno per una mera questione di segmenti, e al contrario potranno offrire prodotti sulle stesse fasce di prezzo e con soluzioni meccaniche di uguale pregio... questo si capisce dalla presentazione di Giulia

In my courtyard: 2019 Maserati Ghibli 250cv GranSport, 2017 Alfa Giulia 150cv

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