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[marco+]

Ciao a tutti!

sono iscritto da tanto e vi leggo sempre, ma stasera ho bisogno del vostro aiuto!

è finalmente arrivato il momento di pensionare la mia corolla del 2005 con un'auto pari segmento, quindi ho fatto un primo giro esplorativo in concessionaria e ne sono uscito fuori con quanto segue:

golf gti:

5p

bianco puro

bixeno

sensori

mirror pack

gruppi ottici led

ruotino

37k con ipt che diventano 33

giulietta qv

tct (di serie)

bianco

bixeno

ruotino

36.8 con ipt che diventano 31.7

megane rs

bianco

cup

sensori e telecamera

ruotino

rlink

30.4 con ipt che diventano 27.2

astra opc

bianco

bixeno

radio touch

sensori posteriori

35.7 con ipt che diventano 27.2

leon cupra

bianco

sensori anteriori

airbag posteriori

34.2 con ipt che diventano 29.4

tra tutte queste candidate tenderei a scartare l'astra, perché veramente molto grossa, quindi l'ho messa solo per confronto con le altre.

Tenderei a preferire 5 porte per un fatto di praticità, quindi la megane, anche se ancora molto bella, è un po' svantaggiata.

Rimarrebbero quindi la giulietta, la golf e la leon, sulle quali proprio non saprei decidermi, anche se ho una leggera preferenza per la leon e per la giulietta, che ho inaspettatamente trovato in concessionaria ed è veramente bella.

Voi che ne pensate? Grazie in anticipo!

[TonyH]

Tony invece mi confermi che l'EQ2 è attivo solo un funzione "D"??

la cosa è un po' fumosa dal libretto. L'eQ2 lo dà parte integrante del VDC, ma mentre il pre-fill esplicita che è attivo solo in Dynamic, per l'eQ2 lo lascia in sospeso.

dovrei provare a fare la stessa curva in N e in D e vedere se ci sono differenze di comportamento.

hai provato a chiedere in farmacia?? :lol: :lol:

si, ho chiesto.

mi han detto di dirti che non hai pagato i Pannoloni e i tappi per le orecchie dell'ultima volta che hai provato a seguirmi

[jeby]

si, ho chiesto.

mi han detto di dirti che non hai pagato i Pannoloni e i tappi per le orecchie dell'ultima volta che hai provato a seguirmi

Far debiti e chic

[boygrunge]

la cosa è un po' fumosa dal libretto. L'eQ2 lo dà parte integrante del VDC, ma mentre il pre-fill esplicita che è attivo solo in Dynamic, per l'eQ2 lo lascia in sospeso.

dovrei provare a fare la stessa curva in N e in D e vedere se ci sono differenze di comportamento.

sulle MY2014, eQ2 e pre-fill ci sono solo su D e A.

onestamente, sulla mia il pre-fill lo noto poco.

[bik]

Riguardo al test della Seat Leon Cupra:

S. L. I. C. - Seat Leon Italian Club - www.leon-club.com - Il PRIMO CLUB ITALIANO dedicato alla SEAT LEON

[poliziottesco]

posto parte di un confronto cupra vs rs trophy da PistonHeads.com :: Speed Matters

[h=1]MEGANE 275 TROPHY VS LEON CUPRA 280[/h]Enough about the 'ring already; PH pits Megane Trophy against Leon Cupra on UK soil

Lord be praised; an opportunity has arisen to compare the Megane 275 Trophy andLeonCupra 280 without reference to lap times around That German Racetrack. Other than the one just made there.

A bit of Bedfordshire B-road included in test

It's quite liberating actually. For all those reckoning the 'ring laps were an irrelevance obscured by marketing smoke and mirrors (and possibly a bit ofcheeky engineering'prep'on the side) we've got a chance to drive the two back to back somewhere owners may well do the same. So we've got Bedford Autodrome - your classic track day venue - and the conveniently close-by B660 for the essential B-road blast.In the Spanish corner we've got Matt's PH Fleet SEAT, a three-door 280 with a manual gearbox and the standard electronically adjustable dampers and active VAQ 'diff'. You can also get the three-door in 265hp form - matching the non-Trophy Megane's baseline horsepower figure - while five-door Cupras are all 280s. Unlike the Renault there's the option of an automated dual-clutch too on all 280s. Base price of a manual Leon like this is £26,945, Matt's car coming in at £29,965 thanks to a bunch of adaptive this and assist that fripperies. See his PH Fleet intro for the full breakdown but none of the extras applied actually have any bearing on the way the car drives. Once you turn them all off at least.

Summer downpour made track 'interesting'

Not quite the same can be said of the Megane. Philosophically fromage to the SEAT's chalk, it's the (whisper it) analogue alternative to the SEAT's digitally enhanced delights with its mechanical limited-slip diff and passive dampers. Much of the fuss about the Trophy's dynamic ability centres on the optional Ohlins dampers and Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres ... neither of which are fitted to our test car.Before options the Trophy costs nearly two grand more than the SEAT at £28,930 and as tested it's a burly £31,325, though after options the gap closes to just £60. Opt for the full package of 5kg lighter Speedline Turini 19-inch wheels (£1,000), Ohlins package (£2,000) and the Cup 2 tyres (£1,000) and the Megane is well into Golf R and Audi S3 territory. Cue forum outrage at the temerity of Renault to charge more than £30K for a Megane... In fairness the Trophy spec does include most of the goodies you'd want, including a standard Akrapovic exhaust, the desirable Recaro seats and the stiffer Cup chassis with the LSD.

It's a battle for hot hatch heart and soul!

Even in that context the SEAT is looking like something of a bargain but, of course, to unlock its full track potential you'll need the as-yet unconfirmed performance pack with the bigger Brembo brakes and Cup 2 tyres. Add DSG and the Leon will be well over £30K too. But as it stands the comparison between these two particular cars - effectively in their 'base' mechanical specs without the extras required to achieve those lap times - is a fair one.Stage set it's time to drive them and see how they really compare...

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SEAT LEON CUPRA SC 280

Engine: 1,984cc 4-cyl turbo

Transmission: 6-speed manual (6-speed DSG optional), front-wheel drive

Power (hp): 280@ 5,700-6,200rpm (265@5,350-6,600rpm)*

Torque (lb ft): 258@1,750-5,600rpm (258@1,750-5,300rpm)*

0-62mph: 5.8 (5.9)*

Top speed: 155mph

Weight: 1,375kg

MPG: 44.1 (NEDC combined)

CO2: 149g/km

Price: £26,940 (£29,650 as tested, comprising Leather Pack with Winter Pack £755, Driver Assist Pack including high beam and lane assist £295, Safety Pack £115, SEAT Sound System £250, Adaptive Cruise Control and front assist £500, space saver £95 and Dynamic Custom paint £695).

*Figures for the 265, where different, in brackets. DSG only available on the 280 - 0-62mph reduced by a tenth and MPG to 42.2 as well as adding 20kg, 6g/km and £1,285.

MEGANE RENAULTSPORT 275 TROPHY

Engine: 1,998cc 4-cyl turbo

Transmission: 6-speed manual, mechanical limited-slip differential, front-wheel drive

Power (hp): 275@5,500rpm

Torque (lb ft): 265@3,000-5,000rpm

0-62mph: 6.0 sec

Top speed: 158mph

Weight: 1,376kg

MPG: 37.7mpg (NEDC combined)

CO2: 174g/km

Price: £28,930 (£31,325 as tested, comprising 19-inch Speedline Turini wheels/Bridgestone RE050A tyres £1,000, Liquid Yellow paint £1,300 and emergency spare wheel £95)

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Introduction and comments

Megane Renaultsport 275 Trophy

SEAT Leon Cupra 280

Verdict

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