Porsche 911 Carrera GTS e 911 Targa 4 GTS 2015

[poliziottesco]

E ti ha voluto tentare al ritiro? Ci doveva pensare un po' prima!

Comunque quel rosso fa paura

in questo caso credo che il venditore (molto bravo) volesse semplicemente cercare di sobillare l' essere malvagio che e' in me....pero' a spendere il doppio del budget ai voglia ai voglia ad essere malvagi

Beh... non è proprio comodo (però si riesce a fare più bella la linea dell'auto secondo me, si risparmiano pistoncini, braccetti, cazzilli vari...)

azz, non immaginavo, allucinante, una bella rottura di maroni. chissà' se un tetto diviso in due come ad es. nella morgan aero ss sarebbe stato più' semplice da manovrare.

[TonyH]

Oppure si usa il metodo "supra" (0:20)

onestamente sono un attimo basito. Su auto come il Duetto, Mx-5 o la 500C sono riusciti a trovare soluzioni a mio avviso ben più funzionali e veloci di auto che costano 4-5 volte e/o sono di decenni più moderne

A mio avviso, se non puoi scapottare agevolmente nel tempo di un semaforo rosso, hai sbagliato qualcosa....

[RiRino]

Onestemante a me questa Targa GTS piace veramente poco,e probabilmente il rosso e quei cerchi non fanno che peggiorare le cose ...molto meglio la Targa ''liscia'' o la GTS coupè.

[alederme]

Onestemante a me questa Targa GTS piace veramente poco,e probabilmente il rosso e quei cerchi non fanno che peggiorare le cose en:...molto meglio la Targa ''liscia'' o la GTS coupè.

Non amo la targa ma il rosso della gts è fantastico

[RiRino]

Non amo la targa ma il rosso della gts è fantastico

Il colore in se e per sè si,ma abbinato alla carrozzeria targa GTS e a quei cerchi non mi piace proprio.

[alederme]

Il colore in se e per sè si,ma abbinato alla carrozzeria targa GTS e a quei cerchi non mi piace proprio.

Sulla coupe secondo me fa paura... Sui cerchi rimando il giudizio

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Anche secondo me è brutta rossa con il montante grigio, i cerchi neri e gli interni neri e rossi... volgare!

Così la vedo bene invece!

[poliziottesco]

In effetti concordo che in versione targa e' molto meglio questa postata da crabble. Vista oggi in Porsche proprio cosi'. GTS con il magnifico rosso carmino convengo che ' molto meglio se in versione coupe' o cabriolet.

posto altre impressioni da Autocar

What is it?:

The 911 GTS is the latest addition to the fabled Porsche 911 family, recently arrived on UK roads. It joins equivalents in the company’s Cayman, Boxster, Panamera and Cayenne ranges and plays yet another distinct role within a 911 model range already crowded with bit-parters.

Slotting in on price, performance and sporting purposefulness between a normal Carrera S and the full-blooded GT3, the GTS is Porsche’s new medium-hot, medium-affordable derivative. Moreover, its identity is allegedly that of the everyday-use, highly developed road-going performance special.

That’s as distinct from the comfy one (Targa), the fast one (Turbo), the trackday one (GT3) and the upcoming even more specialised trackday one (GT3 RS) – and it’s not counting coupés and convertibles, rear-drive and four-wheel-drive variants, normal and ‘S’ models or special editions separately.

So on the face of it, this is a car that seems to answer absolutely no need whatsoever. However, that couldn’t be farther from the truth. Cars like the 911 subsist on a fairly modest customer base, and with the current 991 generation now approaching middle age, Porsche needs something to lure owners back into the showroom.

With the awesome GT3 now all but sold out, the company also needs a more pragmatic counterpoint to offer customers clearly not in the market for the imminent GT3 RS. That, in a nutshell, is the GTS’s raison d’etre: to add spice to the model range, but at a level that isn’t too rarefied.

What's it like?:

It’s very good – mainly because it’s a Porsche 911 sprinkled with go-faster dust, when normal 911s are already pretty special devices. But when you strip away what it really is, the GTS actually appeals more as a shrewd buy than as some kind of idealised sweet spot on the 911 ownership ladder.

Porsche has simply taken a regular Carrera S, thrown into the mix the wider body and axle tracks of the Carrera 4 and the engine upgrade of the optional ‘powerkit’, and likewise included some items of drivetrain and chassis equipment as standard that you’d otherwise have to pay extra for. So the GTS gets Porsche’s Sport Chrono Plus package with sports exhaust and dynamic engine mounts, its torque vectoring set-up with the limited-slip diff and its actively damped PASM adjustable suspension thrown in.

It doesn’t have Porsche’s PDDC active anti-roll bars, but conveniently you wouldn’t want them. However, were you to order the car’s standard specification on a normal Carrera S, you’d get within £2000 of the GTS’s list price - not counting the leather/alcantara interior, wide body or the powerkit upgrade. Easy sell, then.

Added to that, there are one or two ways in which the GTS’s mechanical specification is genuinely new. The suspension and steering have been retuned for greater dynamic poise and feedback, with 10mm of ride height having been taken out of the former compared with the PASM set-up on the Carrera S.

The GTS is also the first 911 to benefit from a retuning of the 991’s standard seven-speed manual gearbox for better shift quality. While it was a popular opinion, I’ve never had a problem with the way other manual 911s change gear. Nor did I lose sleep when the GT3 switched to PDK-only.

While it’s a more civilised device than a GT3, you wouldn’t call the GTS a particularly comfortable tourer. The standard 20in rims and low-profile tyres kick up noticeably more road roar than you’ll find in any GT worth its salt, the flat six ranges from vocal to very vocal in its various exhaust modes, and you have to keep that engine stoked up with frequent gearchanges in order to make the car feel seriously fast.

All of which you’ll take considerable pleasure in doing. The car’s deliciously harmonious and substantial controls make every interaction a joy, and the way the flat six builds to an eccentric 7500rpm climax is automotive theatre at its most addictive.

The car’s ride is compliant enough to deal well with most UK road surfaces, but it feels resolutely firm – and quite uncompromising in its body control at times. Porsche 911s are inherently busier on their springs than other sports cars because of their weight distribution, and rather than allowing the body to bob a little at either axle when disturbed by a bump, the GTS’s dampers make their presence felt.

The car is better tied down than lesser models as a result, as well as flatter and more precise when cornering, but it can be a touch wearing over a bad surface.

Besides the improved shift quality, the GTS also beats its lesser siblings on steering weight and feedback, which both build more usefully away from straight-ahead. Lateral grip levels are such that you’ll need to be on a closed road or a circuit to probe them fully; on the road, even in fairly slippery conditions, balance, directional response, handling accuracy and stability are excellent.

Should I buy one?:

The Porsche 911 continues to offer a more immersive and invigorating driving experience than any other sports car for the money, and this one certainly deserves a rank as one of the good ones.

It isn’t the most rounded or well mannered of grand tourers, and judged against rivals its bald performance is now much more commendable for its quality than its quantity, but its usability continues to distinguish it among less practical two-seaters.

That the GTS feels more like a well-equipped but familiar 991 than any new, more variously talented machine speaks volumes about its stature in the canon of great 911s. Though less practical, a GT3 is a much more compelling drive than the £9000 difference in list price between the cars would suggest. The going rate for an as-new GT3 currently makes that difference more like £40,000, for what it’s worth.

For this tester’s money, assuming the GT3 and other more exotic models were out of reach, it’d be a toss-up between this GTS and a sparsely equipped, rear-driven, 3.4-litre manual Carrera for the pick of the 911 range. If going fast matters as much to you as having fun, the GTS wins. But whichever you chose, you’ll have a sports car of effusive charm and character.

[911SC]

2015 Porsche 911 Carrera GTS Jet Black

2015 Porsche 911 Carrera GTS Jet Black Metallic | Laval, Quebec | Porsche Lauzon

trasmissione

7-velocità di trasmissione manuale

esterno

Jet Black Metallic

interno

Black Leather Interior incl. Alcantara® GTS Packag

motore

• 3,8 litro orizzontalmente motore in alluminio a 6 cilindri

• Max. Potenza: 430 CV

• Max. Coppia: 325 Nm

430 CV (316 kW) a rpm

£ 325-ft (441 Nm) a rpm

Trasmissione

All Wheel Drive

freni

• 6 pistoncini in alluminio fisso monoblocco pinze in alluminio fisso pinze monoblocco anteriori e posteriori a 4 pistoncini

• Dischi freno con 340 millimetri (13.39 in.) Di diametro davanti e 330 millimetri (12.99 in.) Posteriore, tutti i dischi autoventilanti e forati

• ABS (integrato nel PSM)

• sensore usura Pad su ogni pastiglia del freno

• Pinze Freno a Red

• Freno di stazionamento elettrico

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[h=1]Porsche dice no ad Android Auto: perché volete tutti quei dati della diagnostica?[/h]Porsche ha preferito Apple CarPlay ad Android Auto per le sue nuove 911. Una scelta come un'altra se non fosse che la testata Motor Trend ne svela i retroscena a dir poco imbarazzanti. Secondo fonti autorevoli Porsche non avrebbe gradito la richiesta di Google di accedere a tutta una serie di dati che apparentemente sembrerebbero inutili per i servizi di infotainment. Da sottolineare però che non sappiamo se questo trattamento sia stato riservato solo al marchio di Stoccarda o anche agli altri.

La piattaforma software di diagnostica (OBD2) avrebbe dovuto condividere con Android Auto - e quindi con Google - ogni informazione riguardante la velocità, la posizione dell'acceleratore, le temperature del refrigerante e dell'olio, i giri del motore e altri parametri. Di contro Apple CarPlay richiederebbe solo il collegamento con la centralina (PCW) del motore per stabilire se il veicolo è in movimento – come d'altronde fanno un po' tutti i sistemi che gestiscono audio, video e navigazione.

Se da una parte Porsche potrebbe averne fatto una valutazione di stampo etico, dall'altra è più probabile che si sia preoccupata dei suoi segreti industriali. Oggi la Google Car è uno scorfano per geek ecologisiti, ma domani chissà.

Porsche dice no ad Android Auto: perché volete tutti quei dati della diagnostica? - Tom's Hardware