F1 Anticipazioni 2015

[Tommitel]

A questo punto sarebbe bello se riuscissero a ricreare una livrea, sponsor permettendo, simile a quella dei tempi Marlboro.

Comunque Alonso è tornato dove ha sempre sognato di stare.

[AleMcGir]

Ecclestone to propose V10 comeback for F1

Bernie Ecclestone refuses to give up his crusade against F1's current engine formula.

Meeting with a select group of reporters on Thursday including Forbes' business journalist Christian Sylt, the F1 chief executive revealed that he intends to propose the sport brings back loud "normally-aspirated" engines for 2016.

He said he will table the matter at the December 18 meeting of the powerful Strategy Group.

Asked if he is contemplating V8s or V10s, and referring to the teams and manufacturers, 84-year-old Ecclestone answered: "It's up to them."

Ecclestone said to counter the argument that abandoning the quieter energy-recovery-boosted turbos would be a backwards step, the 2016 engines would be branded as 'Hybrid' and have KERS systems aboard.

And he played down suggestions carmakers like Honda and Mercedes will walk away by insisting it would actually be "a bit of a dream for them to build a normally-aspirated engine and develop it to about 1000 horse power".

Ecclestone denied that potentially putting off Volkswagen might be another obstacle, as the German giant has been "out there for long enough and haven't made a big enough effort to come in".

Fascinatingly, Ecclestone also said the FIA might not even be an obstacle to the move, given that president FIA president Jean Todt "sold the rights" in a recent commercial deal.

"The Strategy Group that we have got," he explained. "We made a contribution of $40 million a year to buy that actually.

"They sold the rights to have this new group set up in the way we thought it should be set up," Ecclestone added.

Ecclestone to propose V10 comeback for F1

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Modificato 12 Dicembre 2014 da EC2277

[ISO-8707]

A questo punto sarebbe bello se riuscissero a ricreare una livrea, sponsor permettendo, simile a quella dei tempi Marlboro.

Concordo, anche solo per togliere l'attuale livrea cromata dato che, con l'abbandono della Mercedes, "filologicamente" non ha più molto senso, oltre ad essere veramente brutta.

IMHO

[AleMcGir]

Todt: “Ferrari stanca. Migliorare senza rivoluzioni”

Stanca ma non malata: questo il quadro (clinico) della scuderia di Maranello tracciato dal presidente della FIA. In un’intervista a RaiNews 24, Jean Todt si è pronunciato sull’attuale situazione del Cavallino, il cui ultimo alloro iridato risale al 2008.

Una Ferrari che negli ultimi otto mesi ha radicalmente cambiato volto, con l’uscita, nell’ordine, del successore di Todt, Stefano Domenicali, del presidente Montezemolo e del successore di Domenicali Marco Mattiacci. Senza contare l’addio di Alonso e lo sbarco di Vettel, che suggella la fine di un ciclo molto meno vincente di quanto auspicato. Si aspettava Jean Todt tutto quello che è successo a Maranello? “La Ferrari è un fascino dell’automobilismo a livello mondiale e ancor di più in Italia“, ha risposto il francese a Marco Franzelli. “C’è una certa emotività e questo fa parte del bello della Ferrari, questo fascino che ogni tanto fa prendere decisioni che sono più veloci rispetto a quello che potrebbe succedere in altre squadre”.

Di che cosa ha bisogno il Cavallino ora per risollevarsi? “La Ferrari è come una persona un po’ stanca che va dal dottore e riceve una prescrizione. La Ferrari al momento ha bisogno di essere analizzata nel dettaglio e alla luce di questa analisi avere delle proposte per migliorare, secondo me senza rivoluzionare la situazione”. Ma, ha voluto precisare Todt, la “Ferrari non è ammalata, ma da analizzare. Non userei la parola malata, la trovo un po’ esagerata”. Una Ferrari che comunque, come ha dichiarato il presidente Marchionne, non è Ferrari se non vince… “Vincere è un obbligo ma fa parte della storia della Ferrari. Ma non si può vincere sempre. Ricordo all’epoca quando era difficile, che si chiedeva ‘Ma quando vince la Ferrari?’. Poi, quando eravamo nella situazione in cui vincevamo molto, si diceva ‘Siamo stanchi di vedere la Ferrari vincere perché si sa il risultato prima della gara’. Dunque, diciamo, la soddisfazione non esiste, né in un senso né nell’altro”.

Marchionne. “È una persona molto in gamba, molto intelligente, grande lavoratore. Può essere solamente positivo e stimolante collaborare con un uomo che arriva con delle proposte nuove e costruttive”.

Arrivabene. “È un personaggio con carisma, in gamba, molto affezionato alla Ferrari. Mi ricordo quando sono arrivato alla Ferrari, era già il rappresentante del nostro title sponsor, è sempre stato affezionato e vicino alla Ferrari”. Dicono sappia comandare come Todt: “Mi fa piacere il complimento”. Più difficile il compito di Arrivabene oggi o quello di Todt del 1993? “Dal mio punto di vista, penso che la Ferrari oggi sia in una situazione notevolmente migliore della Ferrari che ho trovato il 1° luglio 1993, quando non riusciva a entrare nei punti (allora però a punti ci andavano in sei…, ndr) quindi la situazione era notevolmente inferiore a quella di oggi”.

Vettel. “È punto di riferimento, ha vinto per quattro anni consecutivi il titolo. È uno dei migliori piloti in Formula 1, un ragazzo molto carismatico, organizzato, un grande professionista, freddo. Ha grandi qualità“.

F1 | Todt: "Ferrari stanca. Migliorare senza rivoluzioni"

Intervista completa dal sito della Rai Formula Uno, Jean Todt: "Ogni giorno penso a Michael Schumacher" - Video - Rai News

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Ecclestone: “40 milioni alla FIA per lo Strategy Group”

In una conferenza stampa tenutasi giovedì a Londra, Bernie Ecclestone ha rivelato che la creazione dello Strategy Group – e dunque l’ammissione dei sei team più blasonati al tavolo delle decisioni – costa alla FOM ben 40 milioni di dollari l’anno che finiscono nelle casse della Federazione.

L’amministratore delegato della Formula 1, Bernie Ecclestone, ha parlato giovedì a Londra in una conferenza stampa rivelando che la FIA ha voluto un accordo da 40 milioni di dollari l’anno per coinvolgere sei team – Ferrari, Mercedes, McLaren, Williams, Lotus e Red Bull – nelle decisioni chiave del futuro della Formula 1, all’interno dell’organizzazione nota come Strategy Group.

A una domanda dalla platea riguardo alla presunta poca influenza della FIA sulle decisioni in merito al regolamento e al futuro della Formula 1, Ecclestone ha risposto come al suo solito in maniera sintetica: “Hanno venduto questa opportunità. Abbiamo ottenuto la creazione dello Strategy Group, o meglio, paghiamo 40 milioni di dollari l’anno perché esista. Hanno venduto i diritti affinché questo gruppo esista nel modo in cui l’abbiamo costruito”.

40 milioni di dollari (32 milioni di euro) per far sì che la FIA accettasse di far accedere al tavolo di comando anche i team, un tavolo dove oggi siedono 18 membri: sei della Federazione, sei della FOM e uno per ognuno dei team sopra menzionati. ”Ma sono soldi dovuti?” ci si domanda? “No” – ha risposto Ecclestone – “Ma la FIA era in grosso deficit, perciò ha cercato di procurare qualche soldo in questo modo“.

In questo primo anno di attività lo Strategy Group – che avrebbe dovuto idealmente accogliere il favore di tutte le scuderie – ha in realtà prodotto dissensi in quei team (i meno blasonati) rimasti esclusi dal tavolo. La prossima riunione è prevista per il 18 dicembre prossimo e all’ordine del giorno ci saranno soprattutto questioni inerenti lo scongelamento dei motori e la riduzione dei costi.

Per la trascrizione completa in lingua inglese della conferenza stampa di Bernie Ecclestone: www.forbes.com

F1 | Ecclestone: "40 milioni alla FIA per lo Strategy Group"

Ecclestone Says F1 Governors Gave Share Of Power To Top Teams For $40 Million

Formula One’s chief executive Bernie Ecclestone has revealed that auto racing’s governing body accepted $40 million in return for setting up a new body which gives six leading teams a say in key decisions.

The revelation was made in a media briefing by Mr Ecclestone to sports reporters at F1’s headquarters in London on Thursday. Forbes was also in attendance and will present below the first part of the almost verbatim transcript from the meeting with the second section soon to follow.

Mr Ecclestone’s revelation concerns the Strategy Group, a controversial rule-making structure which first met in October last year. It comprises the F1 Group, which is run by Mr Ecclestone, governing body the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA) and six leading teams. In 2014 they were Ferrari, McLaren, Mercedes, Red Bull Racing, Williams and Lotus. Giving the participants more say should be applauded but instead it has attracted criticism from the teams which are not members of the group.

Decisions are made by a majority and each of the three group members has six votes. They have used it as the Strategy Group has already vetoed significant proposals such as $200 million budget cap which was due to be introduced to F1 in 2015. It would have levelled the playing field which could have prevented the collapse of the Caterham and Marussia teams over the past two months. As Forbes revealed last month, Europe’s anti-trust regulators are investigating claims that “the FIA accepted a dilution of its regulatory authority” as a result of the Strategy Group. Mr Ecclestone says it was set up in return for money.

When asked why the FIA does not seem to be as influential as it once was Mr Ecclestone says “they sold the rights. The Strategy Group that we have got. We made a contribution of $40 million a year.” He stresses that the FIA did not sell the right to rule-making and instead “sold the rights to have this new group set up in the way we thought it should be set up.” Responding to whether the F1 Group should have had to pay for this Mr Ecclestone said “no. We were really helping out the FIA because it was in deficit and looking to get some money somehow.” It reflects research by Britain’s Daily Telegraph which revealed in February that the FIA made a $3.4 million net loss on revenue of $81.7 million in 2012.

In a bid to prevent more teams going to the wall Mr Ecclestone says he is going to propose to the Strategy Group that F1’s 1.6-liter V6 turbo engines are switched for the 2.4-liter V8s which were dropped at the end of last year. The V6 engines are more environmentally-friendly than their predecessors but are around twice the price at an estimated $30 million annually.

Mr Ecclestone says he will make the proposal at the next Strategy Group meeting on 18 December and adds that it has a good chance of proceeding as four teams are in favour which would be enough to give a majority. He says that the old engines would be re-introduced in 2016 and would be formally branded hybrids to highlight their energy-saving capabilities. Time will tell whether the plan gets the green light.

The following transcript is slightly abridged for clarity

Bernie Ecclestone: We can all put our money together and have a wager that Mercedes will win the championship next year which is not really the sort of thing we are looking for. I have been proposing and am going to propose that we go back to a normally aspirated engine with some hybrid bits built into it. The manufacturers will have to call it a ‘McLaren hybrid’, ‘Ferrari hybrid’ or a Williams hybrid’ so that it will get across the message. They are hybrids now but nobody tells anybody. It’s the best-kept secret actually. What this engine is for. What was it designed for and what have we achieved? It is a fantastic bit of engineering.

Where are the new engines going to come from?

People have built these racing engines and anyone that is currently building the engines we currently have, it would be a bit of a dream for them to build a normally aspirated engine and develop it to about 1000 horsepower which is what I believe we want.

Is that not more expense to develop these engines?

No.

Can they just use the previous ones?

They can do what they like. If you say ‘this is the engine, this is the cubic capacity and we want to develop some hybrid thing, something like the Kers system’ it is up to them.

But if they have to build completely new engines from scratch that is just going to double the cost.

They wouldn’t need to. If they wanted to they could obviously.

Just use the old ones?

They could.

Do you think the likes of Renault and Honda would accept that? They were the prime movers for the V6 turbo. They were the ones who were pushing it. That’s why Honda came back they said.

I don’t know whether that’s why they came back to be honest with you. I really don’t know.

Mercedes are definitely not going to accept it are they? Having spent a fortune on it and made it work.

We had this arrangement which is this Strategy Group.

And are the FIA going to vote for it? There’s six votes probably against.

Well we have six so if we have four teams want to do that that’s ten. There’s 18 votes so that’s the majority.

Do you not fear that Mercedes particularly will just pack their tents and go?

I think they will do that whenever it suits them anyway because we have noticed in the past the manufacturers do that but I would be surprised if they did.

Have you got a time in mind when you would like these engines to be ready for?

2016. These are my ideas.

But are they crucial?

I don’t know. You guys should know this. What do you think? Are you all happy with this engine we have got?

I don’t think we can go back. It’s an admission of defeat to go back.

Who has been defeated?

The sport.

Nobody said the sport was stupid to introduce them.

The actual racing has been good.

The two guys who have been racing have been great.

The cars haven’t broken down as much as people expected. They are quite reliable.

No. It is wonderful piece of engineering.

Going back to a different engine problem. We have only got one team that can win though. We had that with Red Bull for a while.

Not really. They didn’t have any advantage. We used to change the regulations all the time and they would come up with something new which was good. Nobody can do anything with the engines they currently have.

Part of the problem is the regulations as they are currently written because Renault and Ferrari don’t have the opportunity to go into next season to try and level the playing field.

Exactly. There have been discussions about they are allowed to do some development but I said to them if this is open to everybody Mercedes has already got a big start so you give them exactly the same rights do you think they are going to go slower? The only way if you really wanted to be stupid about this is to say you freeze the engine of Mercedes and you allow the other engine manufacturers to do what they want, still within the regulations, to do whatever modifications they want.

I think it is more of the fact that Ferrari and Renault haven’t got the opportunity. Ferrari and Renault are saying give us the chance to try and catch them up but with the current regulations they haven’t got the chance.

I have just explained that they all got together and agreed that they could do certain things.

Primarily from 2016 onwards?

From now onwards. But they all said this is going to cost us a fortune.

But it’s going to cost them more to develop new engines so is this just something of a rod to beat them saying ‘if you don’t allow the rules to be more flexible then we will introduce this’?

Not really. I’m not so sure. I did speak to one of the engine people about the type of engine we are talking about and they think the development costs would be reasonable.

So we would go back to a V8 or a V10?

It’s up to them.

Have you spoken to Mercedes about this yet because they may be the main ones against the idea.

I have always thought, and I have been reasonably successful at getting things done, and I have always thought that maybe this would be a bit of an uphill struggle to convince Mercedes and honestly we shouldn’t ask them. It would need to be them volunteering.

So are you going to ask them or not?

What could they say? ‘The other people are useless, we are great so we re happy.’

So would part of the deal, when you are trying to get it through the Strategy Group, be that you would say to the smaller teams this is going to be much cheaper?

Maybe the FIA would think it is a good idea.

Not likely.

Why?

Because Jean is the one who trumpeted the new engines. He is not going to say let’s get rid of them.

He doesn’t want actually want six teams racing does he?

It would still be a big admission of defeat for the FIA in particular. They have laid out their green strategy and this is it so they are not going to go back. But if you use customer cars there is no need to change the engines because customer cars automatically save the bottom three.

But who has what car? If the engine today costs $30 million how is it going to be cheaper having the whole car?

But at the moment we are ameliorating the investment cost so the cost will go down as the engine takes on a longer life. At the moment Mercedes, Ferrari and Renault are getting pay back from the investment cost.

If they are prepared to reduce the engine cost then the problem disappears.

The Strategy Group is meeting on the 18 December, is that when you are going to try and have a vote on this new engine?

Probably. There is a million points.

If they were prepared to reduce the cost of the engines the problem disappears. There is no need for a new engine.

Absolutely. Keep what we have got. We have got used to having Formula One with no noise. We always have meetings then and avoid GP2.

Are you still worried about the noise?

Yes and all the promoters as well as most of the people that attend the races. The trouble is that when this engine was thought up nobody thought about the side effects. Max was right. He said it would bring in a lot of new manufacturers.

How was he right then? It has brought in Honda.

They didn’t tell me that. You probably know more than I do, well you do.

It could bring in Volkswagen?

They have been out there for long enough and haven’t made a big enough effort to come in.

So what is your assessment of why Honda has come back?

Honda have always been competitors. They are racers basically. That’s exactly what they are and they are engineers. So the engine is wonderful for engineers, it’s a challenge but none of them knew the result was going to be.

It seems to me that Honda, who make a substantial number of electric and hybrid cars, would view Formula One as a prime target to showcase the technology so if you go back to that 1,000 horsepower V8 or V10 it almost negates what they are doing in the marketplace.

I was talking to a guy the other day about ballet dancing, which is something I’m not interested in, and he said they were thinking of not having these girls dancing on their toes but having them in more comfortable training shoes and they would get much taller girls. It’s the same sort of thing isn’t it? We are in the entertainment business. We entertain the public, that’s what Formula One has always done.

More people went to the last race in Abu Dhabi than ever before. They said they had a 20% rise in the crowd and it was sold out.

You know why? Double points. It caused a lot more interest didn’t it? Nobody knew who was going to be world champion until the end of the race at the last lap.

So it should stay for another year?

No, I think it should be the last three because we are going to have the same problem if one of the two Mercedes drivers does a little better than the other one the drivers’ championship will be over.

Is three races what you are going to suggest?

No, because we agreed we would get rid of it.

Talking about double points, a lot of people have commented that this season the sport seems to have been inflicting more injuries on itself than ever before rather than talking up the good points like the engine.

I said we have got this bloody engine and it is a secret. Nobody has told the world what it does and how a wonderful piece of engineering it is but I think that engine should be in the saloon car championship.

But that is the sort of engine technology people like Honda and Mercedes are trying to sell in their road cars.

I was told by one of the manufacturers that no one could afford to build that engine in a road car.

If not literal technology just the fact they are building those type of engines for F1 helps to sell their road cars.

I don’t know. I think what helped Mercedes is winning the championship and having massive exposure.

Just a quick question related to the engines. The reappearance of the Korean Grand Prix on the calendar surprised many people but it was pointed out that in the regulations you can have five engines if there are more than 20 races otherwise it will go down to four. Is that the reason why it is on the calendar?

No, we have a contract with them.

Do you think it will happen?

They would rather it not happen.

Why did they sign a contract then?

Like lots of things, as you grow older you learn. It seemed a good idea at the time. As my old mate Colin Chapman used to say, ‘circumstances change’. We have to put them on the calendar and if we hadn’t have done they could have sued us. We had them off for a year, agreed on the understanding that they would be back.

So they can’t sue you but you can perhaps extract something from them because they haven’t come up with their side of the deal?

We wouldn’t extract any more than the contract allows us to.

They have got to pay you the fees because they are on the calendar presumably?

If that’s what the contract says.

Have they breached the contract?

Yes.

Why wasn’t it on the first calendar?

There has never been another calendar. I always propose the calendar. Change dates around to suit people because some people can’t have a race because it’s their grandmother’s holiday and it’s always been then since 1842. The problem with the teams is very simple, it’s a financial problem.

Is there some concern that the European Union will come blasting in, as they do the bureaucrats, and that will put everything on hold and you won’t be able to do anything?

If they put everything on hold it will be three or four years so it won’t help what is going to happen next year. But these people have entered into an agreement and they knew what they were signing at the time so I can’t see how the European Union could, or would even want to come in otherwise it opens the door for all sorts of deals to be looked at.

Is a long-term answer to restructure the payments so you level the playing field?

I told all the teams that I’m happy to tear all the contracts up and then we will get together and decide who should get what. We don’t have a problem, we give them nearly $900 million a year. How they share it out doesn’t bother us.

The payments are by who has been there the longest and success?

Yes. It’s more or less the same as it has been for the last 30 years. Ferrari do well because they have been there since Formula One started.

Is that a good reason?

I think so, don’t you? It’s probably the best brand we have got isn’t it?

Three team bosses in the space of a year. Have they got things sorted now do you think?

Ferrari losing is a lot more valuable than some of the teams winning. It doesn’t make any difference, it’s Ferrari still. They are competing. If you are a promoter you would rather have the Rolling Stones than not singing as well as some of these new bands.

Have you met Mr Marchionne?

Yes. He has done the job hasn’t he? He has got a good track record. I’ve known him for years.

The FIA don’t seem to be as influential in the rule-making as they might have once been.

Well they sold the rights. The Strategy Group that we have got. We made a contribution of $40 million a year to buy that actually.

So you are saying that they sold the rights to rule-making?

No, they sold the rights to have this new group set up in the way we thought it should be set up.

Why did that cost? Surely you shouldn’t have to pay for that?

No. We were really helping out the FIA because it was in deficit and looking to get some money somehow.

Ecclestone Says F1 Governors Gave Share Of Power To Top Teams For $40 Million - Forbes

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Pranzo Gestione Sportiva, Marchionne: “Abbiamo i talenti giusti”

Maranello, 13 dicembre – Si è svolto oggi il tradizionale Pranzo di Natale della Gestione Sportiva che ha riunito tutti i dipendenti della Scuderia Ferrari insieme ai rappresentanti dei partner tecnici e commerciali. La giornata si è aperta con un pensiero rivolto a Jules Bianchi e a Michael Schumacher, due piloti molto cari al team di Maranello che in questo momento stanno combattendo una lunga e difficile battaglia. A ricordarli è stato Maurizio Arrivabene che ha debuttato al Pranzo nel suo nuovo ruolo di Direttore Generale della Gestione Sportiva e di Team Principal della Scuderia, dopo i tanti anni in cui era intervenuto nella sua attività di top manager Philip Morris. Arrivabene nel suo discorso ha ricordato anche Emilio Botin, il Presidente del Banco Santander scomparso all’inizio di settembre, e ha poi sottolineato l’emozione nell’assumere questo nuovo incarico: “Per me è un grande orgoglio lavorare per questa azienda, che è la più bella che c’è. Le aziende sono fatte di persone e questa è fatta da persone speciali. Ora ci scambiamo gli auguri di Natale, ma da gennaio voglio vedervi non in difesa ma all’attacco, perché l’obiettivo è riportare la Scuderia nelle posizioni che merita”.

Sul palco, oltre alla F14 T, anche un’Alfa Romeo 6C, la vettura con cui correvano i primi piloti della Scuderia Ferrari, fondata 85 anni fa. A ricordarlo è stato Piero Ferrari che ha sottolineato il coraggio di suo padre che nel 1929, un anno di grande crisi, decise di far correre i gentlemen driver con delle Alfa Romeo. E proprio di Ferrari e Alfa Romeo ha parlato anche il presidente di FIAT-Chrysler Automobiles, John Elkann, che ha ricordato il grande legame tra la Ferrari e la famiglia Agnelli: “Fin da quando mio nonno strinse il patto con Enzo, la Ferrari è qualcosa di assolutamente speciale per noi. Nel reciproco rispetto abbiamo sempre lavorato insieme ottenendo grandi risultati. Siamo estremamente legati alla Ferrari e stiamo lavorando per garantirle un futuro ancora migliore. Anche in pista sappiamo che c’è un grande lavoro da fare, ma siamo determinati a mettere a disposizione tutti gli strumenti che servono per ottenere i traguardi che questa Scuderia si merita”. “Mi fa piacere – ha aggiunto John Elkann – vedere anche un’Alfa Romeo sul palco perché il 2015 sarà un anno importante anche per questo grande marchio”.

Il Pranzo si è chiuso con le parole del Presidente Sergio Marchionne, che ha affermato: “In questa sala ci sono molte persone di grande talento. Io sono qui per farvi lavorare al meglio e darvi le risorse per fare in modo che con le vostre capacità la coppia di piloti straordinari che abbiamo sia in grado di competere per la prima fila. Per questo ho deciso di chiamare Maurizio Arrivabene che garantirà a voi e alla Ferrari la leadership più efficace. Maurizio ha la mia piena fiducia, conosce questo mondo da molto tempo e ha le capacità per guidare la Scuderia in un periodo difficile per il team ma anche per tutta la Formula 1. Non temete il cambiamento, siate proattivi, abbiate il coraggio di dare idee. So che ne siete capaci ed è di questo di cui la Ferrari ha bisogno”. Il presidente Marchionne ha poi concluso ringraziando i partner tecnici e commerciali: “Grazie a tutti voi – ha detto – Le vere partnership si vedono in questi momenti, nelle difficoltà, e nemmeno per un giorno ho sentito mancare il vostro appoggio. Vi assicuro che non è passato inosservato”. Infine gli auguri con al suo fianco sul palco John Elkann, Piero Ferrari, Maurizio Arrivabene e l’Amministratore delegato della Ferrari, Amedeo Felisa.

Alla fine, poi, foto per tutti e in particolare con Kimi Raikkonen, che insieme a Sebastian Vettel formerà la squadra della prossima stagione, e Fernando Alonso, all’ultima apparizione in Ferrari.

http://formula1.ferrari.com/it/news/pranzo-gestione-sportiva-marchionne-abbiamo-talenti-giusti

Modificato 13 Dicembre 2014 da AleMcGir

[Aymaro]

Ferrari annunci il terzo pilota (in sostituzione di Bianchi)

A Mexican driver is back to Maranello | Scuderia Ferrari

ora, dico io, tra i tanti appiedati di stagione e la FDA, vanno a prendere Gutierrez?

[Yakamoz]

Con tutto l'impegno e la buona volontà, questa cosa non l'ho capita. Non l'afferro, esula proprio dal mio campo cognitivo.

MA PERCHE' GUTIERREZ?

[Guest EC2277]

Perché costa poco e se non erro, finora il terzo pilota è sempre stato quasi inutile?

[Aymaro]

Perché costa poco e se non erro, finora il terzo pilota è sempre stato quasi inutile?

mah, fosse per questo, c'è Marciello che ha si meno esperienza sulle F1, ma ha già girato sulla F14t, e sopratutto sul simulatore, ed in più è già stipendiato Ferrari, quindi costerebbe anche meno,

imho (ma spero vivamente di no) c'entra lui...

[pennellotref]

Credo che una risposta possa venire dalla carrozzeria Ferrari del 2015........