[VAG] VW Dieselgate: truffa nei test delle emissioni

[Delta Force]

11 ore fa, owluca dice:

l'affare si ingrossa cit.

 

quindi i meganoidi che hanno invaso borgo dei lupi venivano da ingolstadt

 

...quattro anelli...attorno ai polsi, tra non molto... 

[vince-991]

9 hours ago, saven said:

 

 e del marketing... praticamente potrebbero trasferirsi in silicon valley!

Sul marketing non si discutono. Sono il top. Riescono a far credere alla gente quello che vogliono

[Ospite]

3 ore fa, vince-991 dice:

Sul marketing non si discutono. Sono il top. Riescono a far credere alla gente quello che vogliono

 

[stev66]

Girano voci che il tutto sia iniziato con questa :

 

 

[Puntor89]

http://www.wallstreetitalia.com/volkswagen-risarcira-clienti-usa-con-5-000-in-contanti/

[owluca]

1 ora fa, Puntor89 dice:

http://www.wallstreetitalia.com/volkswagen-risarcira-clienti-usa-con-5-000-in-contanti/

 offrire 5000 euro equivale ad ammettere una svalutazione del bene

mi pare un po' autolesioanista con il fatto di ricomprale

[Ospite]

Questo era stato postato?

 

http://www.alvolante.it/news/volkswagen-conti%20-rosso-2015-16-2-miliardi-dieselgate-346465

 

In particolare questo passaggio:

 

Cita

Il rosso determina un calo del 97% nei dividendi riconosciuti agli azionisti: il dividendo relativo al 2015 si attesta a 0,11 euro per ogni azione ordinaria e 0,17 per azione privilegiata, quando l’anno scorso era pari a 4,8 e 4,86 euro.

[SevenOfNine]

Arrivano oltre mezzo milioni di richiami generalizzati... nella lista di auto fuori norma abbiamo un vasto range di produttori... inclusi giappi, coreani, inglesi, francesi, americani e italiani

 

Mercedes, Opel, Porsche and VW recall 630,000 diesel-powered cars

 

German car makers Audi, Mercedes, Opel, Porsche and Volkswagen are voluntarily recalling more than 630,000 diesel-powered vehicles in their home market after irregularities with emissions systems were discovered during a government investigation - but several other car makers named in the investigation have yet to reveal if they will take action, and only Audi and Vauxhall/Opel have confirmed they will make the voluntary updates on every affected car in Europe.

During real-world testing German government investigators discovered what they deemed excessive NOx emissions levels, chiefly as a result of emissions reductions systems only working at certain temperature levels.

The full list of cars deemed by the German government to have excessive emissions is: Alfa Romeo Giulietta 2.0; Audi A6 V6 3.0; Chevrolet Cruze 2.0; Dacia Sandero 1.5; Fiat Ducato 3.0; Ford C-Max 1.5; Ford C-Max 2.0; Hyundai ix35 2.0; Hyundai i20 1.1; Jaguar XE 2.0; Jeep Cherokee 2.0; Land Rover Range Rover 3.0; Mercedes-Benz V250 Bluetec 2.0; Nissan Navara 2.5; Opel Insignia 2.0; Opel Zafira 1.6; Porsche Macan 3.0 V6; Renault Kadjar 1.5; Renault Kadjar 1.6; Suzuki Vitara 1.6; Volkswagen Amarok 2.0; and Volkswagen Crafter 2.0.

The announcment follows on from the UK government’s similar investigation which was presented yesterday, finding levels of NOx emissions were up to six times the prescribed legal limit in lab tests. However the Department of Transport did not immediately back up its findings by calling for a voluntary recall.

However, following the German government's action, Secretary of State for Transport Patrick McLoughlin said: “I am pleased to hear today’s announcement from Germany that Mercedes, Opel, Volkswagen, Audi and Porsche are able to offer consumers changes to their cars which will reduce emissions. I will be seeking urgent clarification from these manufacturers that they will be offering the same fix to car owners in the UK.”

It is not clear if McLoughlin will also call on the other car makers listed by the German government as having excessive emissions in the real world to take action.

Vauxhall and Opel had already announced in March that they had already instigated plan  to improve NOx emissions of SCR (Selective Catalytic Reduction) diesel applications in new vehicles from August, while updating Euro 6 compliant systems that are already on the road from June.

Meanwhile, Audi announced it will go beyond the formal request for action in Germany and recall 65,700 cars with six-cylinder diesel engines throughout Europe. "Cars will be tooled up with a overhauled software in a voluntary service-action," read a statement, "the technology is used in EU5 and EU6 models of production-series Q5, A6 and A8 with a manual gearbox."

The following cars have voluntarily been recalled already in Germany: Audi Q5 (22,000 cars); Audi A6 (29,000); Audi A8 (15,000); Opel Zafira (58,000), Opel Insignia (31,000); Opel Cascada (1000); Mercedes A-Class and B-Class (211,000); Mercedes V-class (36,000); Porsche Macan (32,000); VW Amarok (70,000); VW Crafter (124,000).

It has not been alleged that any of the manufacturers have broken any legal requirements for emissions. However, the German and UK governments have now asked that the real world emissions levels, which are outside of European regulatory requirements, should be investigated and improvements to the emissions reductions systems be made.

It is understood the German investigation - as with the UK government's - uncovered concerns regarding the operating temperatures of emissions-reducing recirculation systems and particulate filters. The tests showed that manufacturers shut down the filter systems at different temperatures in order to prolong the life of the parts involved.

It has been reported that Mercedes diesels shut down the EGC after treatment systems at 10deg C while Opel’s is shut down at 17deg. This means that, while the systems would run at full effectiveness in the official laboratory emissions tests, they would regularly not be effective in everyday use. 

In response to the announcement, Daimler, owner of Mercedes, said the test results do "not indicate the use of non-permissible software". It added there were technical reasons for deviations from the certified values and that it welcomed the EU's forthcoming introduction of Real Driving Emissions (RDE) test methods.

So far, Mercedes has only said it will offer German customers of the A-Class, B-Class and V-Class a voluntary recall. The entry-level engines affected also include the 1.5-litre dCi Mercedes-sourced Renault engine, which is understood to be affected on the Kadjar model.

A Hyundai statement read: "All Hyundai vehicles tested comply in full with conditions stipulated by European certification regulations. The company is committed to a policy of continuous improvement and will continue to reduce emissions and develop environmentally-friendly technologies" but did not specify if remedial work would be done.

Suzuki has highlighted that its diesel engines are sourced from Fiat.

The news follows on from Mitsubishi admitting that it had cheated on fuel economy tests in Japan, a raid related to emissions on the offices of Peugeot and a US investigation into diesel emissions at Mercedes.

Yesterday VW revealed that it had reached an agreement with a US judge to buy back affected cars in the US and offer owners compensation.

 

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motoring/mercedes-opel-porsche-and-vw-recall-630000-diesel-powered-cars

[Flanker]

Da quello che ho capito queste sono le auto che in strada non rientrano nei limiti di laboratorio (e grazie al c****!)

 

Da qui, a barare anche durante i test di strada ce n'è.

Mi pare si stia paragonando mele con sassi.

[Nicola_P]

Ancora con sta storia, la menate ancora?

Non bastavano i giornalisti a fare un minestrone unico senza senso per fare audience? 

 

La VW ha truffato perchè barava nei test omologativi.

 

Per le altre case automobilistiche invece c'è una rilevante discrepanza tra i risultati dei test di laboratorio e i risultati nei test su strada per il semplice fatto che i test omologativi non rispecchiano l'utilizzo effettivo del veicolo.

Mica è colpa delle case se il test omologativo è fatto alla membro di segugio.

 

Ora dopo averlo ripetuto N volte e averlo scritto in colori differenti è stato capito?