[VAG] VW Dieselgate: truffa nei test delle emissioni

[TonyH]

Non sarebbe meglio usare le stesse energie per far sì che VAG proceda coi risanamenti, considerato che al momento non sembra che si stia affannando più di tanto?   

[Quo.Lore]

Stesso articolo, in inglese

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-fiat-emissions-germany-idUSKCN0XL0MT

 

 

Cita

 

Test of Fiat diesel model shows irregular emissions: Bild am Sonntag

A German emissions probe conducted following the Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE) scandal suggested that some Fiat vehicles showed irregular levels of diesel exhaust pollution if the cars ran for longer than 22 minutes, Bild am Sonntag said.

A spokesman for Fiat in Italy declined to comment.

The newspaper said the investigation by the Federal Motor Transport Authority (KBA) revealed that an emissions treatment system on an unspecified Fiat model was throttled back after 22 minutes, a sign that the producer may be employing technical devices or software to avoid emissions cleaning filters.

The normal duration of regulatory tests for vehicle emissions is about 20 minutes, the paper added.

The Volkswagen emissions-test cheating scandal cast a spotlight on industry-wide emissions of health-threatening nitrogen oxide (NOx) levels in diesel fumes.

Following the KBA investigation, the firm and some other top German manufacturers -- Porsche, Opel, Audi and Mercedes -- agreed to recall 630,000 vehicles to tweak diesel engine software technology.

While no German manufacturer other than VW was found to have used illegal cheating software, carmakers were making liberal use of something they call a "thermal window" which refers to the time when carmakers are allowed to throttle back emissions management systems in order to protect the engine from condensation or other damage.

Auto supplier Bosch [ROBG.UL] is said to have informed German investigators that Fiat was using a mechanism that virtually disabled exhaust filters, Bild am Sonntag reported. Bosch declined to comment.

Bild am Sonntag did not clarify whether the mechanism revealed in the Fiat test also functioned as a "thermal window".

Regulators and environmental groups have criticized the widespread use of systems that switch off emissions treatment not just to improve engine performance but also to increase the interval between services.

The government official said there needed to be clarification at European level over the use and declaration of engine protection mechanisms.

 

 

Comunque la cosa è da verificare, per ora non ci sono prove formali. 

Ma... magari evitare di versare nel solito "Germania vs Italia" nel frattempo non farebbe male.

[stev66]

Su "Repubblica " di venerdi'  in un trafiletto molto ben nascosto, ho letto che l'accordo VAG -USA costerà a VAG 10 miliardi circa .

[meravigliato]

Stesso articolo, in inglese

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-fiat-emissions-germany-idUSKCN0XL0MT

 

 

 

Test of Fiat diesel model shows irregular emissions: Bild am Sonntag

A German emissions probe conducted following the Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE) scandal suggested that some Fiat vehicles showed irregular levels of diesel exhaust pollution if the cars ran for longer than 22 minutes, Bild am Sonntag said.

A spokesman for Fiat in Italy declined to comment.

The newspaper said the investigation by the Federal Motor Transport Authority (KBA) revealed that an emissions treatment system on an unspecified Fiat model was throttled back after 22 minutes, a sign that the producer may be employing technical devices or software to avoid emissions cleaning filters.

The normal duration of regulatory tests for vehicle emissions is about 20 minutes, the paper added.

The Volkswagen emissions-test cheating scandal cast a spotlight on industry-wide emissions of health-threatening nitrogen oxide (NOx) levels in diesel fumes.

Following the KBA investigation, the firm and some other top German manufacturers -- Porsche, Opel, Audi and Mercedes -- agreed to recall 630,000 vehicles to tweak diesel engine software technology.

While no German manufacturer other than VW was found to have used illegal cheating software, carmakers were making liberal use of something they call a "thermal window" which refers to the time when carmakers are allowed to throttle back emissions management systems in order to protect the engine from condensation or other damage.

Auto supplier Bosch [ROBG.UL] is said to have informed German investigators that Fiat was using a mechanism that virtually disabled exhaust filters, Bild am Sonntag reported. Bosch declined to comment.

Bild am Sonntag did not clarify whether the mechanism revealed in the Fiat test also functioned as a "thermal window".

Regulators and environmental groups have criticized the widespread use of systems that switch off emissions treatment not just to improve engine performance but also to increase the interval between services.

The government official said there needed to be clarification at European level over the use and declaration of engine protection mechanisms.

 

 

Comunque la cosa è da verificare, per ora non ci sono prove formali. 

Ma... magari evitare di versare nel solito "Germania vs Italia" nel frattempo non farebbe male.

Al limite "Volkswagen vs resto del mondo"

☏ Nexus 5 ☏

[tridente]

Anche quattroruote da la notizia. E' interessante la risposta data da un lettore.

 

http://www.quattroruote.it/news/novita/2016/04/26/dieselgate_indagine_kba_un_giornale_tedesco_chiama_in_causa_fca.html

[meravigliato]

Sembra che questa Thermal window sia ben poco regolamentata.

[owluca]

39 minuti fa, meravigliato dice:

Sembra che questa Thermal window sia ben poco regolamentata.

ma legale.

[stev66]

il problema è che molto probabilmente VAG non ha soluzioni.

Negli USA ricompra e sta zitta ( al costo di 10 Giga dobloni )

IN EU mobilita il sistema paese, l'acquisto di pubblicità e la difesa Chewbacca   

Modificato 26 Aprile 2016 da stev66

[skid32]

3 ore fa, tridente dice:

Anche quattroruote da la notizia. E' interessante la risposta data da un lettore.

 

http://www.quattroruote.it/news/novita/2016/04/26/dieselgate_indagine_kba_un_giornale_tedesco_chiama_in_causa_fca.html

Quale?

[hot500abarth]

Maaaaa...mi verrebbe da dire....come possono sapere che il ciclo di omologazione dura al massimo 22 minuti? Sarebbe come tirare a testa o croce e sperare di aver culo che la macchina rientri nelle emissioni...mi sembra una cretinata sta notizia...