FCA - 1.0 e 1.3 MultiAir III - Motori GSE (FIREFLY) e GME

[Zyx]

quindi a termoli spariscono i Fire e faranno solo i motori per Alfa?

[GL91]

Può darsi che a Termoli faranno anche il 2.0 turbo "non-Alfa", quello per Jeep e Fiat più grandi.

[Bare]

13 hours ago, Zyx said:

quindi a termoli spariscono i Fire e faranno solo i motori per Alfa?

IMO, GSE in Europe will have two plants, one in Poland and the other one in Termoli. Maybe Poland is getting only a naturally aspirated versions. 

[Bare]

http://www.allpar.com/news/2017/02/return-of-the-straight-six-36574

 

We'll see if it's true. I heard something more than what's not mentioned in article above. GME T6 could even mean a phase out of Pentastar V6. Naturally aspirated Pentastar will mostly be substituted by GME T4 (called Hurricane in FCA US form). 

 

Also this comes in line with something I heard some two and a half years ago. In the long term F160 V6 used by Maserati will be phased out. Some of them if not all will be replaced by V6 90°. Who knows, maybe will see a GME T6 in some Italian products.

[Fedo]

Nuova variante I6 del GME. 

http://www.allpar.com/news/2017/02/return-of-the-straight-six-36574

L'articolo dice che potrebbe arrivare fra 5/7 anni.

Andrebbe quindi poi a sostituire il V6 Pentastar che verosimilmente quest'anno riceverà l'aggiornamento (PUG) e un pimpatina...

Teoricamente un simile motore potrebbe arrivare anche a più di 400cv andando a rendere inutile perfino il 5.7 V8 Hemi.

[TurboGimmo]

Situazione simile ai nuovi motori presentati da Mercedes.

Modulari, da 3, 4 e 6 cilindri.

 

Ho capito giusto?

[Bare]

13 minutes ago, TurboGimmo said:

Situazione simile ai nuovi motori presentati da Mercedes.

Modulari, da 3, 4 e 6 cilindri.

 

Ho capito giusto?

We'll see if they will ever make 1.5 I3 GME. 1.3(3) I4 GSE is close in size.

 

BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar Land Rover and now it seems even a FCA goes to same or similar direction with engine development.

But, yes, Mercedes could be the most similar. FCA needs I6 which could fit in Giulia/Stelvio engine bay.

[TurboGimmo]

But L6 will be longer than V6

[Fedo]

20 minuti fa, Bare dice:

FCA needs I6 which could fit in Giulia/Stelvio engine bay.

 

the greater employment FCA could make of such a longer-but-thinner than V6 engine is in vehicle that need room for bigger suspension scheme: Jeep and RAM, rather than Alfa Romeo.

I think a 1.5 I3 is useless

[Bare]

8 minutes ago, TurboGimmo said:

But L6 will be longer than V6

Inline 6 with 48V tech can be similar in length to Inline 4. V6 could still be the choice for a top of the line sports versions. We'll see what will happen but IMO this Inline 6 could be more important for next generation Maserati modela than for Alfa Romeo. Maserati is now using American V6 engine blocks and those blocks wouldn't be around forever. 

5 minutes ago, Fedo said:

 

the greater employment FCA could make of such a longer-but-thinner than V6 engine is in vehicle that need room for bigger suspension scheme: Jeep and RAM, rather than Alfa Romeo.

We'll see what will happen. Also FCA needs a engine which could suit future Dodge products and as I said maybe even a future Maseratis.

I don't believe that they will keep and develop a GME T6 parallel to Pentastar V6.