I prossimi modelli Ferrari

[__P]

21 minuti fa, STEVEC scrive:

About the plan, I don't think there will be a Roma V6, neither a SF90 V6. Does anyone know sth more?

Nel riassunto ho riportato quanto mi han detto fidate fonti. Poi oh, le cose possono cambiare, e nessun piano è scritto sulla pietra, neanche se completamente finanziato. Fatto sta che sul fronte elettrico ci stanno lavorando e molto, ma sono anche consci che per alcuni modelli dovranno posticiparne il lancio.

Modificato 2 Febbraio 2023 da __P

[Tifoso30]

Se la F245 è posticipata come annunciato sul forum, ci sara una SF90M (V6)?

[ale75]

19 minuti fa, Tifoso30 scrive:

Se la F245 è posticipata come annunciato sul forum, ci sara una SF90M (V6)?

In teoria secondo i piani originali si sarebbe dovuti passare a bev 

In pratica valutando diversi aspetti come capacità nuova linea produttiva , tecnologia batterie etc ci potrebbe stare una versione M visto che entro quest anno le normali verranno esaurite e nel 2024 metà 2025 finiranno anche le versioni speciali )forse prima 

[Jpalmito]

Davvero i nuovi ricchi sono così stupidi da pagare fortuna con delle Ferrari completamente elettriche?

[mydog]

Erano 15 anni che non andavo a Maranello, ci ho fatto la scuola e ho alcuni amici. 

La Ferrari sta fagocitando tutto , continua ad ingrandirsi . 

Impressionante 

[4200blu]

 

One turns 20 this year, the other shipped its first car shortly after World War II. The former wants to bring sustainable transportation to the masses, while the latter sells speed and extravagance to the world's wealthiest. One's cars quietly whir, and the other's roar.

Tesla and Ferrari have little in common, and won't for another few years. But in one of the few interviews he has given since becoming chief executive officer of the Italian supercar manufacturer 17 months ago, Ferrari CEO Benedetto Vigna complimented the electric vehicle maker led by Elon Musk while drawing clear distinctions between their respective paths forward.

Speaking at Ferrari's Maranello headquarters, Vigna, 53, credited Tesla with accelerating change within an industry steeped in engine cylinders. The executive who pioneered sensors used in billions of iPhones discussed how Ferrari will navigate the shift to batteries from combustion engines, the runaway success of the brand's newest model line and the future of luxury.

Here are excerpts from the conversation that have been edited and condensed for length and clarity:

What have you learned from Tesla?

The big contribution that Tesla has made to the automotive industry? It was a wake-up call. Things used to happen too slowly. Tesla shook up the industry and accelerated processes and decisions. They were faster and more agile.

How unique is Ferrari's path toward electrification?

Electrification is a new way to provide our customers a unique driving experience, and I've no doubt that our electric powertrains will give clients the same thrills of combustion engines. The point is how to extract the best emotion from the use of this technology, giving something unique to the clients.

Driving thrills is a combination of factors: longitudinal acceleration, lateral acceleration, sound, gear-changing and braking. This doesn't change if the powertrain is electric.

Is Ferrari on track with its electrification plans?

Yes, we're fully on track to unveil our first fully electric Ferrari in 2025. That means it will go into the market the following year.

What will be the main differences between an electric Ferrari and other cars?

Well, there are functional cars that have the goal of moving people from point A to point B, emitting zero carbon dioxide. You don't care about its brand; what really matters is that it moves you. Separately, there are emotional cars that gives you a unique driving experience, like Ferraris.

How do you consider Tesla?

For me, it's a functional car. It's meant to go from one point to another.

There's a perception Ferrari has been slower with respect to electrification than some competitors.

That's not true. I just think a company like us can't impose any choice on clients, and that's why we'll keep offering a mix of technology for as long as it's feasible. That means internal combustion engines, hybrids and fully electric models.

You're going electric, but the Purosangue unveiled just a few months ago will only be powered by combustion engines. What was behind this decision?

That shows there's still room for a mix of technology. We have filled the order book four times faster than our original plan. Still, I can reiterate that Purosangue's contribution to our deliveries won't exceed 20 percent during the model's life cycle.

Can you tell us more about the Purosangue order book?

The only thing I can tell you is that we are in line with other models, so we have orders placed for delivery going well into 2024.

What are your views on electrification?

Some regulators at a certain point decided that the community should go into electric, right or wrong. And it is — this is going to happen.

Electrification is just one piece of the pie, and there's indeed too much hype about it as well as on software and the debate about the need to consolidate the supply chain. Most people are looking too much at the technology itself, so you have people talking about things such as axial flow, radial flow and power density, when the most important thing is the client's perception.

What do you mean?

Electrifying cars is relatively easy from technological point of view. The real point is how to extract the best emotion for the use of this technology you want to provide to the driver. Technology is just a tool, and I think there's too much money poured into this, and this is because there's a lack of deep knowledge.

What is the biggest threat you see for Ferrari?

I can't see any specific threat for Ferrari. There is a threat for the luxury industry overall, which is how will new generations react to luxury goods? That's why I'm putting a lot of attention on sustainability, a true sustainability action plan. When I say that we want to be carbon neutral by the end of 2030, I mean that by end of 2030, I want to sharply cut emissions.

What would you like your legacy to be?

What I'd like to leave is a company where there is more empowerment at all levels, that's more unified. I want decisions to be taken at all levels. There's this trend in Latin culture companies to wait for the boss to tell the people what they have to do. Do it, full stop.

How do you measure success?

It's all about how quickly you understand the environment around you and how quickly you adapt and make decisions, partially with the brain and partially with the gut. If you believe you need to wait to have the whole range of elements to make the final decision, well, it's too late.

 

(Bloomberg)

 

 

 

 

[pennellotref]

Domanda: quali sarebbero i competitors di Ferrari che sono più avanti nell'adozione dell'elettrico ? Lo chiedo perché 'sta storia la leggo spesso e volentieri, in particolare (ma non solo) nelle testate economiche....

[Beckervdo]

6 minuti fa, pennellotref scrive:

Domanda: quali sarebbero i competitors di Ferrari che sono più avanti nell'adozione dell'elettrico ? Lo chiedo perché 'sta storia la leggo spesso e volentieri, in particolare (ma non solo) nelle testate economiche....

Rimac e  Porsche su tutte, poi non mi stupirei di Koenigsegg.

In realtà, hanno la serpe in seno: Maserati è molto più avanti con l'elettrico.

 

[pennellotref]

3 minuti fa, Beckervdo scrive:

Rimac e  Porsche su tutte, poi non mi stupirei di Koenigsegg.

In realtà, hanno la serpe in seno: Maserati è molto più avanti con l'elettrico.

 

 

Se parliamo di rivali di Ferrari, dobbiamo andare a cercare marchi che fanno lo stesso mestiere da cui sfocia un posizionamento di mercato analogo. Nessuno dei marchi citati è sulla stessa barca. Diversamente, in parte, da McLaren e Lamborghini.

[Beckervdo]

15 minuti fa, pennellotref scrive:

 

Se parliamo di rivali di Ferrari, dobbiamo andare a cercare marchi che fanno lo stesso mestiere da cui sfocia un posizionamento di mercato analogo. Nessuno dei marchi citati è sulla stessa barca. Diversamente, in parte, da McLaren e Lamborghini.

Ti devi aggiornare allora. Perchè Rimac si sta sviluppando Bugatti, Porsche da un lato ha gli e-Fuel e dall'altra l'EV.

Maserati come architettura EV è sicuramente più avanti fra le italiane.

Ed alcuni modelli di Porsche sono ampiamente alla portata di Ferrari, così come qualcosa di Ferrari tocca Bugatti.

Parlo di mercato, non di "storia".

 

McLaren sta con le pacche nell'acqua e non sta lavorando all'EV.

Lamborghini, per ora segue audi, ossia PHEV.

Niente in sviluppo al breve termine per un full EV.