Iveco: JV con Nikola Truck

[v13]

14 minutes ago, Dodicicilindri said:

 

Ma gli eredi di Tesla, fra l'azienda di Musk e questi qui, prendono i diritti di uso del nome?

 

non ne sono sicuro, ma credo che Tesla sia morto senza eredi diretti e senza patrimonio né diritti

[Dodicicilindri]

1 ora fa, v13 scrive:

 

non ne sono sicuro, ma credo che Tesla sia morto senza eredi diretti e senza patrimonio né diritti

 

Ovviamente ero ironico

[v13]

Just now, Dodicicilindri said:

 

Ovviamente ero ironico

 

haha, anch'io, mi sono solo dimenticato le faccine

[vince-991]

Oggi General Motors ha acquisito l'11% delle azioni di Nikola per 2 miliardi di dollari e cosi' entra nel CDA di Nikola. Sinceramente non capisco. L'Iveco Nikola 3 ancora non iniziano a produrlo mi pare. Che fine fa?

Modificato 8 Settembre 2020 da vince-991
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[vince-991]

No comment di Cnh Industrial, socia con il 7,1% (Il Sole 24 Ore Radiocor Plus) - Milano, 08 set - Nel capitale di Nikola c'e' anche il gruppo italo-statunitense Cnh Industrial, attraverso Iveco, controllato da Exor (che controlla anche Fca). Secondo la nota di aggiornamento della partecipazione in Nikola Corporation fatta da Cnh Industrial l'8 giugno 2020, la quota detenuta nel capitale e' pari al 7,11%. Cnh Industrial e' entrata nel capitale della societa' Usa che ha sede in Arizona nel settembre 2019, in occasione del round D di sottoscrizione di capitale, con un investimento di 250 milioni di dollari: comprensiva di un investimento in cassa per 100 milioni di dollari e di un conferimento, per altri 150 milioni di dollari, in servizi, quali sviluppo prodotto, ingegneria di produzione e altro supporto tecnico, oltre alla fornitura di certi componenti chiave per accelerare la tempistica di produzione dei modelli di camion Nikola TWO e Nikola TRE. Nel dicembre 2019, Nikola e Cnh Industrial hanno annunciato una joint venture per accelerare la trasformazione verso la neutralita' in termini di emissioni nel settore dei veicoli commerciali pesanti (di categoria Class 8 per gli Stati Uniti), in Nord America e in Europa, attraverso l'adozione di tecnologia a fuel cell (celle a combustibile) a idrogeno. In particolare verra' prodotto in Europa, presso uno stabilimento di Cnh Industrial, Nikola TRE. Alla notizia dell'ingresso del capitale di Nikola del gruppo automobilistico Usa Gm, sollecitata sulla questione, Cnh Industrial ha replicato con un "no comment".

https://www.borsaitaliana.it/borsa/notizie/radiocor/finanza/dettaglio/gm-rileva-11-di-nikola-per-sfidare-tesla-sui-veicoli-elettrici-2-nRC_08092020_1524_326402414.html

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[j]

E' stato anche annunciato che il pick-up elettrico/idrogeno sarà fatto su base GM

[superkappa125]

Nikola é una scatola vuota:

 

https://hindenburgresearch.com/nikola/

 

Quote

• Today, we reveal why we believe Nikola is an intricate fraud built on dozens of lies over the course of its Founder and Executive Chairman Trevor Milton’s career.
• We have gathered extensive evidence—including recorded phone calls, text messages, private emails and behind-the-scenes photographs—detailing dozens of false statements by Nikola Founder Trevor Milton. We have never seen this level of deception at a public company, especially of this size.
• Trevor has managed to parlay these false statements made over the course of a decade into a ~$20 billion public company. He has inked partnerships with some of the top auto companies in the world, all desperate to catch up to Tesla and to harness the EV wave.
• We examine how Nikola got its early start and show how Trevor misled partners into signing agreements by falsely claiming to have extensive proprietary technology.
• We reveal how, in the face of growing skepticism over the functionality of its truck, Nikola staged a video called “Nikola One in Motion” which showed the semi-truck cruising on a road at a high rate of speed. Our investigation of the site and text messages from a former employee reveal that the video was an elaborate ruse—Nikola had the truck towed to the top of a hill on a remote stretch of road and simply filmed it rolling down the hill.
• In October 2019, Nikola announced it would revolutionize the battery industry. This was to be done through a pending acquisition, but the deal fell through when Nikola realized (a) the technology was vaporware and (b) the President of the battery company had been indicted months earlier over allegations that he conned NASA by using his expense account to procure numerous prostitutes.
• Nikola has never walked back claims relating to its battery technology. Instead, Trevor continued to publicly hype the technology even after becoming aware of the above issues. The revolutionary battery technology never existed – now, Nikola plans to use GM’s battery technology instead.
• A spokesman for Volvo spin-off Powercell AB, a hydrogen fuel cell technology company that formerly partnered with Nikola, called Nikola’s battery and hydrogen fuel cell claims “hot air”.
• In addition to now using GM’s battery technology, Nikola seeks to use the automaker’s production and fuel cell capabilities. Nikola seems to be bringing nothing to the partnership but concept designs, their brand name and up to $700 million they will be paying GM for costs related to production.
• Inexpensive hydrogen is fundamental to the success of Nikola’s business model. Trevor has claimed in a presentation to hundreds of people and in multiple interviews to have succeeded at cutting the cost of hydrogen by ~81% compared to peers and to already be producing hydrogen. Nikola has not produced hydrogen at this price or at any price as he later admitted when pressed by media.
• Trevor has appointed his brother, Travis, as “Director of Hydrogen Production/Infrastructure” to oversee this critical part of the business. Travis’s prior experience looks to have largely consisted of pouring concrete driveways and doing subcontractor work on home renovations in Hawaii.
• Claims of owning energy producing assets is not new for Nikola. Trevor claimed that Nikola’s headquarters has 3.5 megawatts of solar panels on its roof producing energy. Aerial photos of the roof and later media reports show that the supposed panels don’t exist.
• At one point Nikola claimed to own its own natural gas wells. There is no evidence in company filings to support this. The claims were eventually quietly removed from Nikola’s website.
• Trevor claims Nikola designs all key components in house, but they appear to simply be buying or licensing them from third-parties. One example: we found that Nikola actually buys inverters from a company called Cascadia. In a video showing off its “in-house” inverters, Nikola concealed the Cascadia label with a piece of masking tape.
• In a July 2020 podcast, Trevor said of Nikola’s “Tre” truck: “We have five of them coming off the assembly line right now in Ulm Germany.” A spokesperson for Bosch, the manufacturing partner building the trucks, confirmed this month that they haven’t made any trucks yet.
• The company’s Nikola One “reveal” was a total farce. We corroborate Bloomberg’s earlier work debunking Trevor’s claims regarding its semi-truck that “this thing fully functions and works…this is a real truck” and provide new evidence.
• We present behind-the-scenes photos showing that Nikola had an electricity cable snaked up from underneath the stage into the truck in order to falsely claim the Nikola One’s electrical systems fully functioned.
• We learned through emails and interviews with former partners that Trevor had an artist stencil “H2” and “Zero Emission Hydrogen Electric” on the side of the Nikola One despite it having no hydrogen capabilities whatsoever; it was built with natural gas components.
• We also present evidence that subsequent “reveals” were fictitious. In 2019, Nikola revealed a “next generation” version of its off-road vehicle. We learned that it was scrapped within weeks of the unveiling due to manufacturing challenges. The redesign work was then quietly outsourced.
• Nikola’s much-touted multi-billion dollar order book is filled with fluff. U.S. Xpress reportedly accounts for a third of its reservations, representing ~$3.5 billion in orders. U.S. Xpress had only $1.3 million in cash on hand last quarter.
• Nikola’s key partners and backers have been cashing out aggressively. Worthington, Bosch and ValueAct have all sold shares. Worthington sold $237 million shares over a 2-day span in July and another $250 million in August. We think they know exactly what type of company Nikola is, and we expect that as Nikola’s GM “partnership” boosts the stock price, key holders will continue to exit.
• We think Trevor Milton, through dozens of outright lies, was able to form partnerships with some of the largest legacy auto companies in the world in their desperation to catch up to Tesla’s EV leadership status.
• Trevor has ensured he is not going down with the ship.  He cashed out $70 million around the IPO and amended his share lock-up from 1-year to 180 days. If he is fired, his equity awards immediately vest and he is entitled to collect $20 million over two years. Milton has laid the groundwork to extract hundreds of millions from Nikola years before ever delivering on his promises.
• Every now and then a story comes around that exposes how little the “experts” really know. Theranos inked partnerships with Walgreens, Safeway, and Cleveland Clinic and staffed its board with luminaries. We think Nikola’s partners did not do their homework.

 

[adm2000]

3 ore fa, superkappa125 scrive:

Nikola é una scatola vuota:

 

https://hindenburgresearch.com/nikola/

 

 

da investigare, ma non si può non ignorare che la Hindenburg è anche un fondo speculativo che ha venduto allo scoperto le azioni Nikola (avrebbe interesse quindi a screditarlo). 
La Nikola ha minacciato per questo la denuncia alle autorità competenti (SEC)

[superkappa125]

9 minutes ago, adm2000 said:

da investigare, ma non si può non ignorare che la Hindenburg è anche un fondo speculativo che ha venduto allo scoperto le azioni Nikola (avrebbe interesse quindi a screditarlo). 
La Nikola ha minacciato per questo la denuncia alle autorità competenti (SEC)

 

Lo so, ma la sensazione tra gli addetti ai lavori ti assicuro che non é troppo diversa.

[Bosco]

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