Jeep Wrangler 4Xe 2021

[maxsona]

Cos'è la macchina elettrica installata sul lato sinistro del motore?

[itr83]

15 ore fa, iDrive scrive:

No, il Wrangler non è un P4 PHEV, cioè e sempre 4x4, sia in modalità ibrida/ICE sia in full EV.

 

ah così va bene.

 

ero già pronto a invocare  l' Inquisizione!

Modificato 4 Settembre 2020 da itr83

[Beckervdo]

1 ora fa, maxsona scrive:

Cos'è la macchina elettrica installata sul lato sinistro del motore?

il BSG (Belt Start Generator) che integra motorino d'avviamento, motore elettrico di spinta ed alternatore

[iDrive]

E il sistema eTorque che e già utilizzato sui modelli MHEV sui 2.0 L4, 3.6 V6 e 5.7 V8 di FCA.

[J-Gian]

10 ore fa, maxsona scrive:

Cos'è la macchina elettrica installata sul lato sinistro del motore?

 

Lato guidatore intendi? E' il compressore clima elettrico ad alta tensione

 

 

 

Lato passeggero invece c'è il moto-generatore a cinghia, quello che fa i riavvii del termico e genera corrente quando la batteria è scarica. 

A giudicare dai cavi però, non è a 48 V @Beckervdo, ma ad alta tensione e trifase, come su Renegade PHEV.

 

Non avrebbe senso avere anche i 48 V su una PHEV, fatta salva la presenza di dispositivi che funzionino a tale tensione (es. barre rollio attive, compressore elettrico per motore), ma non mi risultano ci siano auto del genere attualmente

 

[maxsona]

22 minuti fa, J-Gian scrive:

 

Lato guidatore intendi? E' il compressore clima elettrico ad alta tensione

 

Già, intendevo proprio questo.

 

Infatti nemmeno a me sembra un ibrido 48V

Modificato 4 Settembre 2020 da maxsona

[pennellotref]

https://jalopnik.com/jeep-is-installing-solar-chargers-off-road-in-rubicon-a-1844957787

 

Cita

Jeep Is Installing Solar Chargers Off-Road On The Rubicon And In Moab For The New Hybrid Wrangler

 

The new plug-in hybrid Jeep Wrangler 4xe debuted this week as “the most capable Wrangler ever.” However, when it comes to ensuring owners have enough all-electric range to tackle some of America’s best off-roading playgrounds, Jeep isn’t taking any chances.

According to Roadshow, the company plans to back up its 2021 hybrid off-roader with charging infrastructure in the last place you’d expect — literally the middle of nowhere:

Jim Morrison, head of Jeep in North America, dropped a pretty cool bit of news in an interview Thursday. To coincide with the launch of the plug-in hybrid Wrangler 4xe, the company will install solar charging stations on select trails in California and Utah. Morrison confirmed that owners will be able to charge up at Rubicon Springs, the halfway point of the 22-mile Rubicon Trail, as well as on select trails in Moab, Utah.

First of all, let’s call these off-road charging stations what they are: Jeep billboards. Clever, but Jeep has managed to find an excuse to market its (temporary) advantage of selling an over-capable off-roader with hybrid power, right smack where everybody in their not-hybrid-Jeep-Wranglers look on. Of course, eventually other hybrid vehicles that can make it to the charging stations (which will be conveniently located around campsites) will likely be able to use them also

In regard to the Rubicon Trail, Jeep has already confirmed that the hybrid Wrangler 4xe has completed the 22-mile journey in all-electric mode without having to stop for a charge or switch to liquid power. The 4xe has a claimed estimated electric-only range of about 25 miles, so no dilly-dallying.

The 400-volt, 17 kWh, 96-cell battery pack located under the rear passenger seat area is capable of achieving a full charge from the off-road solar stations in about two hours, Jeep claims. Two electric motors sip the big battery’s energy; the first is an electric-assist system on the engine itself, and the second is an in-line electric motor coupled to the 8-speed transmission with two clutches that transition between electric- and combustion-powered propulsion.

The 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine combined with the hybrid powertrain puts down 375 horsepower and 470 lb-ft of torque, and the battery is sealed to a vehicle water fording depth of 30 inches. For off-road duties, the Jeep is equipped with fully articulating suspension and solid front and rear axles as well as a full-time 4x4 two-speed transfer case.

Jeep’s thinking with the “most capable Wrangler ever” line is not that people are just craving the claimed 50-mpge mileage they’ll get on-road, but rather that they’ll be enthralled to discover what 470 lb-ft of near-instant torque can do across the scars of Utah.

 

Modificato 4 Settembre 2020 da pennellotref

[J-Gian]

6 minuti fa, maxsona scrive:

Infatti nemmeno a me sembra un ibrido 48V

 

Non lo è infatti, ha 3 fasi  

[AlexMi]

Diciamo che per il 4x4 vero questa soluzione è decisamente più adatta, mentre per l'efficienza è più indicata la soluzione senza albero di trasmissione adottata per Compass e Renegade.

[iDrive]

10 ore fa, J-Gian scrive:

 

Non lo è infatti, ha 3 fasi  

Si avevo detto 48v la sembra essere anche lui da 400v.

 

Nel comunicato dicono « high voltage ».

Modificato 5 Settembre 2020 da iDrive