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Ferrari ha depositato i disegni della parte telaistica della loro prima sportcar EV, che dovrebbe sostituire la SF90 a fine carriera.

 


 

 

 

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Grazie, interessantissimo!

 

Ma cosa sono le strutture che si vedono in FIG. 7 ?

Di questi ne vendono a secchiate.

Vedrete.

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18 minuti fa, TurboGimmo scrive:

Grazie, interessantissimo!

 

Ma cosa sono le strutture che si vedono in FIG. 7 ?

Gabbia per le cellule della batteria?

 

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secondo me sarà la prima con implementata la tecnologia qualcomm....

 

praticamente sarà un maxi smartphone :P

Guidatore medio di S.w. mi piacciono le auto , fumatore Light e AD INTERIM convivente... questo è nicogiraldi....

875kg - 260+ cv i numeri del mio piacere

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Curiosissimo. Non vedo l’ora che esca 😮

 

Mi sono sempre chiesto come avrebbero fatto i marchi sportivi a montare le batterie sulle sportive a motore centrale. Non riuscivo a immaginare una soluzione tipo “skateboard” per via dell’ altezza del pianale. Alla fine vedo che bene o male tutto usano la disposizione tipica delle conversioni ev.

 

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https://www.thedrive.com/tech/44192/ferrari-patent-shows-first-details-of-a-daring-electric-supercar

 

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Ferrari Has an Electric Supercar Patent That Stacks Batteries in a Mid-Engine Setup

Patent drawings reveal an electric supercar with a battery stack in the traditional mid-engine spot.

 

BY PETER HOLDERITH FEBRUARY 7, 2022

 

Ferrari, a mythical-status brand known for its contribution to the internal combustion engine and motorsport, told the world a year ago that its first electric supercar was due to arrive by 2025. When the Italian automaker's CEO announced this, however, no details of this upcoming car were released. Now, thanks to the U.S. Patent Office, we know more about this car than the engineers from Maranello might want us to be aware of.

The patent in question was filed in June 2019 but published just a few days ago, on Jan. 26, 2022. Titled simply "ELECTRIC OR HYBRID SPORT CAR," it gives us a detailed layout of the automaker's new electric stallion. Images show a low-slung two-seater in the classic mid-engine Ferrari layout, but as you might've guessed, there isn't an engine in the middle anymore. The whole setup somewhat resembles the Rimac Nevera, although still not quite the same.

Ferrari's patent imagery details a huge mid-mounted battery pack of an unspecified capacity. As well as having this large pack, however, it also has a number of smaller batteries located in the floor—as many as three separate units. All of these, including the large midship battery, are mounted to a sort of subframe which bolts up the main tub of the vehicle in question. This would allow the same system to be used in a number of different supercars, and as the patent implies, not strictly in a full EV but a hybrid vehicle as well.

In a hybrid layout, you might think the large mid-mounted pack would be swapped for an engine with the smaller floor-mounted batteries staying where they are. That's not the case according to the patent, though. The official document states that "Even though the [illustrations] do not show any heat engine, it can be housed in the front part of the car or behind the rear battery pack... thus defining a configuration in which the rear battery pack is interposed between the heat engine and the seats of the car." Yes, it seems like that big center pack is here to stay. This thing in hybrid form would likely be stuffed to the absolute gills. 

The rear portion of this subframe where the large battery is house is angled slightly upwards, and Ferrari says this is to produce "negative lift" or downforce at the back of the car. This area, interestingly, might also be used to cool the batteries. The patent states "advantageously, the fact that the battery packs are stacked together parallel to the platform allows for an ideal exchange of heat with the platform." So basically, Ferrari sees this area as not only a part of vital airflow to produce downforce, but also to cool the batteries. The strakes of a diffuser could perhaps be a perfect structure to extract heat out of the battery, like a huge heatsink.

Ferarri sees the floor-mounted battery packs to be an ideal place to use cylindrical battery cells, however, the rear pack, the patent states, could consist of any type the automaker prefers. "The fact that the batteries housed in the floor are cylindrical does not imply that the rear battery pack... also consists of cylindrical batteries," it states. "All types of cells, namely cylindrical, prismatic or pouch cells, can be adopted." This is a good thing, the patent claims, because certain types of cells are better at draining energy quickly, while others that may be more energy-dense cannot discharge as rapidly as may be desired.

The documentation also shows a few loose aesthetic interpretations of what this vehicle might look like, though these are usually not representative of a production model unless the automaker explicitly says so. Vehicle aesthetics are typically patented much closer to a vehicle's reveal date, while mechanical systems like these could be published years before a car hits the streets. Looking closely, the car from the top view has exhaust tips reminiscent of current V8 Ferraris, for instance. It's very likely the aesthetics the automaker lays out in this patent are taken from an existing model.

All of that being said, however, this is still a very interesting development. Before this patent, we knew practically nothing about Ferrari's first electric supercar. We still don't know things like the output of the drivetrain or the size of the batteries, but something is always better than nothing.

The automaker currently makes the hybrid SF90 Stradale, which is bizarrely eligible for a tax credit in the United States, and that car uses a layout that varies considerably from what's displayed in this document. We'll keep an eye out for any other developments before the car launches in 2025, but for now, this is a lot to absorb. Yes, an electric Ferrari is really coming, and yes, it could be a lot like what we're seeing here.

 

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Ferrari confirms plans for first electric car

Electric supercar set to arrive before 2026

Could come with four electric motors

More than 1,000hp possible

Could be the most powerful Ferrari ever

If you thought the idea of Ferrari building an SUV was wild, wait until you see what else the Italian brand is cooking up…

Yes, V12-loving Ferrari is planning to build its first fully electric car and put it on sale as early as 2025. The plans were confirmed by CEO, Benedetto Vigna, who expects pure electric cars to account for around 5% of the brand’s global sales in 2026.

These exclusive renderings (shown throughout) imagine what this new car could look like, taking inspiration from contemporary Ferraris, classic supercars and the firm’s brand-new 499P Le Mans hypercar.

Official details are few and far between, but patent filings (shown below) suggest the new electric car could take the form of a two-door supercar rather than a large four-door coupe like the electric Porsche Taycan.

This image shows a large battery pack mounted behind the driver and under a pair of front seats. This layout is similar to the one Porsche is considering using for the electric successor to the 718 Cayman and Boxster.

Anyway, back to Ferrari because its first electric car could be significantly more powerful and faster than anything Porsche has up its sleeve…

Another patent image (below) shows a bird’s-eye view of an electric car featuring four electric motors.

This layout uses one motor for each wheel in a similar manner to the record-breaking Rimac Nevera hypercar. Porsche’s forthcoming sports car is expected to have no more than two motors.

Ferrari has already dabbled in electric technologies. The SF90 uses three electric motors to give its twin-turbo V8 engine a 220hp boost.

Not only that, but Ferrari has also revealed a Vision Gran Turismo concept car (below) specifically for driving-sim fans to race in the Gran Turismo 7 video game that shows what even more powerful future Ferraris could be like.

Don’t expect this binary barnstormer’s impractical one-seat layout to appear in future Ferraris, but the beefed-up electrical system might.

The Vision Gran Turismo comes with three motors producing 326hp. These work alongside a twin-turbo V6 engine to deliver a striking 1,356hp punch.

But, there’s a chance Ferrari’s first electric car could borrow its electronic oomph from somewhere else… Possibly from the world of racing.

Ferrari has just revealed the new 499P racing car. This hybrid sportscar will compete in the World Endurance Championship in 2023 and uses the same 3.0-litre twin-turbo V6 as the digital concept car, but it’s also packing a 280hp electric motor that helps drive the front wheels.

This is the most powerful electric motor fitted to any current Ferrari (yes, that’s including cars that only exist as a string of code in a Gran Turismo video game).

Could four of these motors producing more than 1,100hp find their way into a future electric Ferrari supercar?

Whatever motors Ferrari’s first electric car uses, you can expect to see the finished car revealed sometime in 2025.

How much will it cost? Well, Ferrari plans to continue making cars powered purely by internal combustion engines until 2030, possibly with the help of renewable synthetic fuels.

These cars will inevitably be some of the most expensive and exclusive cars the brand has ever made – think more along the lines of the naturally aspirated SP3 Daytona than the hybrid SF90…

The firm’s first electric car may be a statement model designed to outperform flagship electric cars from the likes of Porsche and Tesla, but one that doesn’t tread on the toes of the brand’s ultra-exclusive petrol-powered flagships.

This means a new Ferrari EV might be priced more in line with the near-£400,000 SF90, and not in the same league as a multi-million-pound Rimac Nevera.

That said, you’ll still have to jump through hoops just to get your name on the wait list – no matter how rich you are.

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