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Per essere onesto devo dire che non lo so sicuro, ma non ho sentito questo. Personalmente non credo che una regola delle GSR24 perche non e un topic per la safety. Forse una volta venira, ma poi piu in contento di Euro7 o qualcosa simile. D'altra parte con le macchine tutto touch praticamente diventera cosi anche senza legge, perche dopo ogni avviamento andare per touch in un submenu di un submenu e troppo complicato, non fa quasi nessuno.

Devo dire che i consumi WLTP non mi interessano un minimo perche tutti sono truccati, punto piu di esperienza personale e dei amici che sono possesori di bev e leggo le prove delle giornali automobili tedesca e austriaca. A bese di queste dati un consumo di medio 25kWh e ancora moderato per una macchina normale per tutti il giorno (che per una bavarese sicuramente non e una seg A o B). Ma anche una Zoe o 500e durante inverno nemmeno in traffico cittadino e guidabile sotte le 18-20kWh, figurati sulla autostrada. Una bev tipo e-tron usata per distanze lunghe su statale e autostrada in un uso che e adeguati per una macchinacon centinaii di kW (cosi non con 90km/h dietro un TIR) consuma facilmente 30-35kWh/100km. E se guardi la press internazionale poi vedi, che ci sono i primi accuse contro Tesla per i consumi dichiarati truccati - un valore WLTP non vale niente.

Si vero - se prendiamo il valore di Italia per stapomeriggio 15:00, con un valore di 396g/kWh per il mix della produzione del corrente e un consumo di 25kWh/100km della bev, poi ci sono 99g/km, cosi oltre il limite di 95g che permette il legge europeo per un auto ice da 2021 e abbastanza oltre il limite di 72g per 2025. (fonte electricitymap)

vabbe...zona complettamente falsa per macchine vecchie, Monaco come sede/headquarter di Siemens, Allianz, MunichRe, Linde e BMW e sede tedesco e/o europeo dei tanti multinazionali come Microsoft, Oracle, Telefonica, NTT, Garmin ecc. ecc. e tre grande universita, un cluster enorme per biotecnologia e pieno di auto aziendali e gioccatoli di benestanti ingegneri e ingegneri software, commercialisti, medici e artigiani che lavorano per tutti questi. Senza dubbio anche in Germania ci sono altre zone. E Ingolstadt e una monocultura Audi.

..meno di rottami...sono famoso per smaltire con scopa e pala perche l'unica che restera di una W211 e un mucchietto di ruggine

Si tutti i due, VAG e Stellantis, due malatti camminando che molto probabile non sopravviverano i prossimi 10-15 anni in configurazione attuale contro la concorrenza asiatica

...perche hardware? Il OS e software e come sempre una software ha una release, quella basata su Android fa il step da 8 a 9, quella basata su Linux da 8.0 a 8.5. Nient'altro come anche Apple fa ogni anno con la Apple-OS, attualmente 16.2 e sicuramente a settembre 17.0. Questa via anche per la elettronica automotive sara il futuro.

..boh...al momento e il Tavares che grida e bela per aiuti statali....

DETROIT -- Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares says his company has to work on cutting costs globally in order to keep electric vehicles affordable for the middle class. Among the cuts are reducing the number of the automaker's factories because electric vehicles cost about 40% more than those powered by gasoline. Without cost reductions, EVs will be too expensive for the middle class, shrinking the market and driving costs up more, Tavares told reporters Thursday at the CES gadget show in Las Vegas. “If the size of the market shrinks, you are back to square one because you are reducing the efficiency and effectiveness of your manufacturing operation,” he said. “You go from hero to zero in three years if you stop working on costs.” Stellantis began the factory reduction process in the U.S. last month when it announced plans to idle its plant in Belvidere, Illinois. In February, it plans to lay off about 1,350 people at the plant indefinitely. The plant about 70 miles (110 kilometers) northwest of Chicago now makes the Jeep Cherokee small SUV but has no new vehicle allocated to it. Tavares said he's not certain about costs going up or whether Belvidere will be closed, but said Stellantis must be prepared for a shrinking auto market globally. “We'll see how things move in the next few months,” he said, adding that a significant economic slowdown won't help the Belvidere plant. But he said that if the economy comes back strongly, there's no recession and consumers are still buying vehicles, “Then we'll adapt our decisions.” He said worries about electric vehicle affordability extend to Italy, France, Spain, Greece and other European counties “which means we need to accelerate the cost reduction on that technology to make it more affordable.” Stellantis, he said, has seen its production costs rise, especially raw materials and because of the shortage of computer chips. It has to cut fixed, variable and distribution costs to offset those, plus the increased cost of EVs. Otherwise vehicles will be too expensive or profit margins will drop, Tavares said. “Are we sure that we will not need the (factory) capacity? No, we are not sure,” he said. “If you keep for a signification amount of time capacity that you don't use, you put yourself in trouble. That's what experience shows. So you need to continually adjust your capacity to your needs." (abcNews) https://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/stellantis-frena-il-settore-auto-ue-tavares-focus-costi-AE15TiUC

Peugeot chose the Consumer Electronics Show 2023 in Las Vegas to reveal its latest concept called Inception. However, the fact that this study was revealed in United States doesn’t signal the French marque’s US return, however it does show the way forward for its next-gen electric vehicles that will be sold around the world. All the vehicles that Peugeot will launch starting in the near future will draw inspiration from this very sharp looking concept that should herald the arrival of some bold looking EVs. It’s especially bold inside. The most dramatic part of the exterior has to be the rear end which comes to a very sharp edge that we’re sure will be seen again in the production cars inspired by this concept. They won’t be this extreme, but a stylized version of this will certainly be seen again. Two electric motors make this vehicle all-wheel drive and give it a combined output of 680 horsepower (500 kilowatts) enabling it to go from 0 to 100 km/h (62 mph) in less than 3 seconds. It draws from a large 100 kWh battery pack that gives it a claimed range of 800 kilometers (497 miles) on one charge. This impressive range from a battery pack that while big isn’t massive by current standards comes courtesy of its efficiency. It’s apparently able to use just 12.5 kWh/100 km, equivalent to a very impressive 4.9 mi/kWh, not far off the highly aerodynamic Lightyear 0 solar EV, which can muster 10.5 kWh/100 km or 5.9 mi/kWh. The manufacturer doesn’t state the concept’s exact charging rate, but it does say the vehicle runs on 800 volts and is capable of replenishing 150 km (93 mi) in just five minutes; that’s 30 km (18.6 miles) in one minute. The architecture used to underpin everything is Stellantis’ STLA Large platform and the concept is around 5 meters (196 inches), as well as very low standing just 1.34 meters (52.7 inches) tall. Peugeot also promises that this concept delivers on the driver enjoyment front too. This in spite of the fact that it has steer-by-wire and a rectangular steering… device that the automaker calls Hypersquare. It’s basically a screen that you can steer the car with. You will also notice in the photo showing a model sitting in the driver’s seat that the driving position is really low and sporty. Recent production Peugeots have all had very futuristic and boldly designed interiors and the Inception concept suggests that the automaker has no intention of stopping. So while you shouldn’t expect the materials and surfaces you see inside the Inception to make it into a production car, some of the shapes and ideas certainly will, albeit in more watered down iterations that will be easy to mass-produce. (Insideev)

Ma perche e rilevante chi ha disegnato il carro se alla fine tutti sono uguali e anonimi? Il nome del designer forse conta qualcosa nel mondo della moda, nel automotiv questo interessa nessun cliente.

Si, i modelli attuali con OS8 saranno upgraded a OS8.5 sempre su base linux, invece X1, X2 e neext Mini avranno OS9 su base Android, il user interface sara identico, con la differenza che la OS9 avra anche un App-Store che la OS8.5 non ha e non avra. D'altra parte OS9 non e in grado di gestire il idrive controller, OS8.5 come OS8 invece si. Cosi con OS9 sara un azionamento 100% touch, il vecchio buono idrive non e piu intgrabile.

PARIS -- Stellantis will ultimately cut about one in five retail outlets in France, as it seeks to restructure its distribution network to reduce costs and prepare for the era of electric cars. The Franco-Italian group, whose brands include Peugeot, Citroen and Fiat, is racing to gain more flexibility in its sales network to adapt to new trends and customer demands as cars are becoming increasingly electrified and software-driven. Read More: Why Renault isn't ready to switch to agency sales "We will have fewer physical sites," said Guillaume Couzy, Stellantis country manager for France. He said there would be "just as much or even more" contact between brands and potential buyers. The automaker's future outlets will be more multi-brand, so customers will find a broader offer at each dealership among the eight brands Stellantis markets in Europe, Couzy said. The company's plans for reorganizing its business relations with dealerships, branded the "New Retailer Model," is currently in the final stages of discussions between the parties involved. Stellantis plans to move to a so-called agency model, in which the automaker would own and hold inventory, rather than dealers, and also bear costs of marketing. It plans to test the new model first in Austria, Belgium, Luxembourg and the Netherlands, starting this year. The idea is to reduce distribution costs and better control pricing. Dealers would receive a flat fee per vehicle sold, typically about 5 percent, but they would save money on inventory and marketing and could still earn profits on after-sales activity. Customers would buy their cars directly from the automaker. Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares has said he wants to reduce distribution costs by 50 percent by 2030. (Reuters)

...e nonostante dei migliai di cloni e i decine di marchi perdono costantamente quota di mercato in Europa.....

Temo di NO 😢

BYD’s YangWang unveiled U9 electric supercar On December 5, BYD launched an electric supercar YangWang U9, taking everybody by surprise. At today’s event, it was expected BYD would launch only the YangWang R1 hardcore SUV – the final name of the car is YangWang U8 (R1 was just a codename). Now we see YangWang is not only an SUV brand but BYD’s premium EV brand. The car is equipped with a Yisifang power system, and BYD’ s president Wang Chuanfu mentioned during the event that BYD that the YangWang brand will be the first where BYD will apply its top technologies. U9 can make 0-100km/h in 2 seconds, and not many other details were revealed. According to YangWang it adopts the ‘Gate of Time and Space’ design language, and the impact was given not just on speed, as expected for a supercar, but also on safety and comfort as BYD’s R&D team developed an ‘extremely safe body structure’. The price wasn’t announced, but BYD presented it as a ‘million-level’ supercar (in yuan), so the price should be about $145,000. (CNC)

Si e una nuovo pianale, ma non in senso vecchio solo la parte mecchanica (che sara una skateboard come sempre per una bev-only) ma anche in senso di una piattaforma per la digitalizzazione, rete di bordo, elettronica come accenna questa frase: “With the BMW i Vision Dee, we are showcasing what is possible when hardware and software merge. In this way, we are able to exploit the full potential of digitalisation to transform the car into an intelligent companion. That is the future for automotive manufacturers – and, also, for BMW: the fusion of the virtual experience with genuine driving pleasure,” said Oliver Zipse, Chairman of the Board of Management of BMW AG. “At the same time, BMW i Vision Dee is another step on the road to the NEUE KLASSE. With this vision, we are looking far into the future and underlining the tremendous importance of digitalisation for our upcoming product generations.” ..al momento non pubblicabile, ma in senso di densita della energia, peso e autonomia un passo avanti significante.

Ragazzi - il nucleo del messagio di questa concept non e il disegno (ci sono qualche elementi che si trovera al modello futoro di serie), ma in primis il concetto dimostra il nuovo concetto della interazione tra uomo e macchina come gia dice il nome DEE = digital emotional experience. Dovete non solo guardare le foto ma anche leggere il testo, per esempio questo capoverso:

non e lontana, non ne succedera mai perche 25k di oggi con una inflazione media di 7% per 5 anni siamo fra 2028 a 35k.

...ho piu pensato a queste..

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/industry-news/porsche/oliver-blume/

Fiat unveils metaverse car shopping service Fiat's digital service will offer consumers the chance to configure vehicles in the virtual showroom and purchase them on the spot. LAS VEGAS — Fiat has taken the car shopping journey to the metaverse. The brand in December debuted its Fiat Metaverse Store in Italy that offers consumers the chance to configure vehicles in the virtual showroom and purchase them on the spot. The process will be shepherded by real product experts, not artificial intelligence, so this experience has a "human connection," said brand CEO Olivier Francois. Fiat is looking to roll out the metaverse showroom in France, Germany and the UK in early 2023. Francois hopes to launch the showroom in the U.S. in early 2024 to line up with the return of the electric 500e. Francois said the expert manning the store, known as a Fiat Product Genius, was inspired by Apple. The tech company uses the genius moniker for its store workers, who provide technical support and advice to customers. The Fiat Product Genius is available to answer questions about issues such as vehicle charging. Fiat sought younger, tech-oriented candidates to become geniuses. The metaverse store is being shown this week during the CES technology conference. "The expectation is that the quality of the experience will be better because they are highly trained [and] highly specialized," Francois told Automotive News. "So this is why we have a human being and not an avatar." Fiat said the store was developed in collaboration with Touchcast and Microsoft. Touchcast's Metaverse-as-a-Service platform is built on the Microsoft Cloud, Fiat said, and provides customers with access to the metaverse without requiring VR headsets, avatars or specialized hardware. This experience also provides a bridge to physical dealerships. Shoppers can set up test drives at nearby stores after learning about the products in the metaverse showroom. Francois said the store was "developed by Fiat for Fiat," but the technology is available if other Stellantis brands want to use it. But Francois said Fiat is the perfect fit for this kind of setup because of the simplicity of its lineup. A more complicated product slate with a plethora of customization options and pricier models, Francois said, could raise the need for someone to head to a dealership. Fiat wanted to offer a service that is "super simple, accessible to all," said Laurent Diot, senior vice president of global marketing and communications for Fiat and Abarth. "It's as simple as clicking on the link and then suddenly you are in a Fiat Metaverse showroom. That was our intention, and I think we fulfilled that." (ANE)

Sony and Honda Unveil Afeela EV in Latest Challenge to Tesla Sony Honda JV working with Qualcomm, Epic Games on EV tech EV market crowded with new mobility-entertainment partnerships Sony Honda Mobility Inc. said its electric vehicle will launch under the brand Afeela, the latest debut in a field already crowded by earlier entrants such as Tesla Inc. Cars bearing the new marque will capitalize on the expertise of Sony Group Corp. and Honda Motor Co., Sony Honda Mobility Chief Executive Officer Yasuhide Mizuno said, unveiling the venture’s first prototype during Sony’s CES press conference in Las Vegas on Wednesday. The new company is also collaborating with Qualcomm Inc. and Epic Games Inc. to enable 5G connectivity and entertainment. The joint venture’s first car to roll out on the CES stage was a sedan featuring 45 sensors, including cameras, radar and ultrasonic sensors. It is “a software-defined vehicle,” Qualcomm CEO Cristiano Amon said during the presentation. Sony said it would keep the Afeela cars constantly updated, and Amon said his company’s Snapdragon Digital Chassis would be designed to enable that. Tesla Inc. has set the standard for connected vehicle experiences, through the regular addition of games and other enhancements over the course of owning one of its vehicles. Sony, Honda and many European automakers like Volkswagen AG are now collaborating to combine car manufacturing capabilities with electronics firms’ knowledge of entertainment, networking and sensors to shorten development times for smart electric vehicles. Epic Games will work with Sony Honda to help “deliver connected automotive experiences that lead the way not only in visual communication and safety but also entertainment,” Epic Games Chief Technology Officer Kim Libreri said at the event. The joint venture between Sony and Honda was made official in October, promising to deliver premium EVs in North America and Japan starting in 2026. (Bloomberg)

Munich/Las Vegas. The BMW Group is sharing its vision of the future digital experience, both inside and outside the vehicle, at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) 2023 in Las Vegas. BMW i Vision Dee is the futuristic mid-size sedan with a new and pared-down design language. The name “Dee” stands for Digital Emotional Experience – and that is precisely its aim: to create an even stronger bond between people and their cars going forward. Future digital functions will go far beyond the level of voice control and driver assistance systems we are familiar with today. The BMW Head-Up-Display extends across the full width of the windscreen, providing a glimpse of the next vehicle generation. From 2025 onwards, this innovation will be available in the models of the NEUE KLASSE. The BMW Group has also refined its use of colour-change technology. Having unveiled the BMW iX Flow Featuring E Ink, with the ability to change from black to white, at the last CES, BMW i Vision Dee can now curate its exterior in up to 32 colours. “With the BMW i Vision Dee, we are showcasing what is possible when hardware and software merge. In this way, we are able to exploit the full potential of digitalisation to transform the car into an intelligent companion. That is the future for automotive manufacturers – and, also, for BMW: the fusion of the virtual experience with genuine driving pleasure,” said Oliver Zipse, Chairman of the Board of Management of BMW AG. “At the same time, BMW i Vision Dee is another step on the road to the NEUE KLASSE. With this vision, we are looking far into the future and underlining the tremendous importance of digitalisation for our upcoming product generations.” With its intelligent, almost human capabilities, BMW i Vision Dee accompanies drivers not only through real-life situations on the roads, but also in their digital environment. “A BMW lives by its unparalleled digital performance. BMW i Vision Dee is about perfect integration of virtual and physical experiences,” said Frank Weber, member of the Board of Management of BMW AG responsible for Development. “Whoever excels at integrating the customer’s everyday digital worlds into the vehicle at all levels will succeed in mastering the future of car-building.” BMW Mixed Reality Slider: into the virtual world in five steps The BMW Mixed Reality Slider, in combination with the advanced Head-up Display, is the digital highlight and central operating control of BMW i Vision Dee. Using shy-tech sensors on the instrument panel, drivers can decide for themselves how much digital content they want to see on the advanced Head-Up Display. The five-step selection ranges from analogue, to driving-related information, to the contents of the communications system, to augmented-reality projection, right up to entry into virtual worlds. In parallel, dimmable windows can also be used to gradually fade out reality. Mixed reality can be experienced in BMW i Vision Dee in an immersive way that engages different senses without requiring any additional tools, creating a new dimension of driving pleasure for the user. Advanced BMW Head-Up-Display: in NEUE KLASSE from 2025 The BMW Group is known in the automotive sector as a trailblazer for the Head-Up-Display and has systematically refined this technology over the past two decades. In BMW i Vision Dee, projection across the entire width of the windscreen allows information to be displayed on the largest possible surface – which only becomes recognisable as a display once it is activated. In this way, the BMW Group demonstrates the huge potential of projection technology and BMW i Vision Dee visualises how a advanced Head-Up-Display could also be utilised in the future for the display and operating concept. The standard-production version of the BMW Head-up-Display extending across the full width of the windscreen will be used in the models of the NEUE KLASSE from 2025 onwards. Welcome scenario with voice and phygital icons The digital experience already begins outside the vehicle, with a personalised welcome scenario that combines graphical elements, light and sound effects. Natural language serves as the simplest, most intuitive form of interaction, enabling perfect understanding between humans and their vehicles. The headlights and the closed BMW kidney grille also form a common phygital (fusion of physical and digital) icon on a uniform surface, allowing the vehicle to produce different facial expressions. This means BMW i Vision Dee can talk to people and, at the same time, express moods such as joy, astonishment or approval visually. BMW i Vision Dee can also project an image of the driver’s avatar onto the side window to further personalise the welcome scenario. World premiere for full-colour E Ink technology Following the spectacular debut of the BMW iX Flow Featuring E Ink at CES 2022, the BMW Group is now unveiling a full-colour version of the E Ink technology in BMW i Vision Dee that will be used as the outer skin of the vehicle for the first time worldwide. BMW i Vision Dee, rather than simply alternating between black and white, now showcases a multi-coloured, fully variable and individually configurable exterior. An ePaper film from the BMW Group’s cooperation partner, E Ink, is applied to the body to create this magical display of colour. Up to 32 colours can be displayed. The body surface of the BMW i Vision Dee is divided into 240 E Ink segments, each of which is controlled individually. This allows an almost infinite variety of patterns to be generated and varied within seconds. The laser cutting process used to trim the films and the electronic control design were developed in partnership with E Ink. The adaptation of this technology for curved surfaces and the programming of the animations, were developed by BMW Group’s in-house engineers – enabling a form enabling a form of customisation that is unique throughout the automotive sector worldwide. Reductive design – inside and out The design of BMW i Vision Dee has been deliberately pared down to focus attention on the digital experience and the DNA of the BMW brand. The exterior is defined by the classic three-box sedan design that forms the core of the BMW brand. Traditional design elements, like the BMW kidney grille, twin circular headlights and the Hofmeister kink, are reimagined, with phygital icons replacing analogue elements. This gives BMW i Vision Dee its own digital, but human, character. Inside, digitalisation goes hand in hand with reductive use of materials, operating controls and displays to ensure nothing distracts from the digital experience and the new feeling of enhanced driving pleasure. The unconventional design of the steering wheel, with its central vertical spoke, creates touchpoints that come to life when approached or touched and can be operated by moving the thumb. These phygital touchpoints control selection of the content projected onto the windscreen and, together with the Head-Up Display, thus support the principle of “hands on the wheel, eyes on the road”. “With BMW i Vision Dee, we are showing how the car can be seamlessly integrated into your digital life and become a trusty companion. The vehicle itself becomes your portal to the digital world – with the driver always in control,” said Adrian van Hooydonk, head of BMW Group Design. “Implemented the right way, technology will create worthwhile experiences, make you a better driver and simply bring humans and machines closer together.” Another milestone on the road to the NEUE KLASSE The future of the BMW Group is electric, circular and digital. BMW i Vision Dee represents the digital aspect of this trio and will be another milestone on the road to the next vehicle generation, the NEUE KLASSE. The BMW Group will provide further insights and glimpses of the revolutionary vehicle concept of the NEUE KLASSE over the course of 2023.

...con l'unica problema che devi lasciare fuori sulla strada la macchina, perche nella garage non funzionera...😜