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No - se vendi 2030 500.000 bev, poi in addizone potresti vendere tranquillamente 25.000 V12 o simile senza superare il limite.

....ECCO....come sempre quando qualcosa non funziona in Italia, c'e un indubitato colpevole - LA GERMANIA !!! 🤣🤣🤣

eh si... felice chi ha comprato in tempo una Martini-6 in condizione un po'polverata direttamente dal show room........... 😝🤣

Si, ma 2029 o 2030 e troppo tardi per cambiare direzione - si prenda atto che la fine dell'industria automobilistica europea nella sua vecchia forma sarà solo questione di pochi anni.

Stellantis will decide future of U.K. plants in next few weeks CEO Carlos Tavares said the U.K. government was setting a threshold for EV sales that is roughly double the "natural" level of demand. Stellantis is close to deciding the future of its presence in the U.K. after months of dialogue with the government about its zero-emissions vehicle sales mandate, CEO Carlos Tavares said. The owner of British brand Vauxhall warned in June that it would evaluate producing elsewhere because the mandate was unsustainable. On Oct. 14, Tavares told Bloomberg Television that the government was setting a threshold for battery-electric vehicle sales that is roughly double the “natural” level of demand. If governments in Europe want Stellantis to sell a mix of EVs that is above natural demand levels, “they need to help to stimulate the demand,” Tavares said, noting that the company has discussed this with the U.K. for several months. “We are now reaching a point where we have to make a decision, and that will happen in the next few weeks,” he said. The U.K. introduced a mandate starting this year requiring that 22 percent of each automaker’s new-car sales be zero-emissions, with that threshold rising to 80 percent in 2030. For vans, 70 percent of new sales have to be electric by the end of the decade. Automakers face fines of up to 15,000 pounds ($19,550) per vehicle for missing targets, but they can avoid penalties by using a credit-trading program and catch up in later years. Tavares’ warning coincides with the new U.K. government hosting an investment summit aimed at attracting foreign investors to the country. Stellantis makes small electric vans across its Vauxhall, Citroen, Peugeot, Opel and Fiat brands at its site in Ellesmere Port, following a 100-million-pound investment to turn the factory into an electric-only plant last year. The company also manufactures midsize vans in Luton, near London. (ANE)

No, carscoops ha confermato, non BMW.

M ice non saranno piu.

Perche? Le M di futuro hanno 4 motori e 0g.

Tavares says Stellantis review of brands will take place in 2-3 years Such a time frame means that Carlos Tavares' successor will decide whether to close struggling automakers within the company's 14 brand portfolio. Each brand in Stellantis' portfolio has a product plan that lasts until 2031 and full financing of the program until 2026, CEO Carlos Tavares said. PARIS — Stellantis will review the performance of all its brands to determine whether to reduce the size of its portfolio as early as 2026, CEO Carlos Tavares said. “We will review each (Stellantis) brand's performance at about two-thirds of the way through the Dare Forward 2030 plan, so you could expect decisions in two to three years,” Tavares told Italian journalists at the auto show here on October 14. Given that Tavares is set to retire in spring 2026, and Stellantis plans to select his successor by the end of 2025, the final decision on the future of the automaker's 14 brands will most likely fall on his successor. Tavares said that when Stellantis was created in 2021 each brand in the group started with an approved 10-year product plan in which the first five years were fully financed. “So far we delivered on our commitments, we already launched the STLA Medium platform which debuted with the Peugeot 3008 and, when needed, we re-scheduled some product launches due to changing conditions, but we did not cancel any,” Tavares said. He reiterated that Maserati's problems are because of marketing issues and not due to technology and product problems. EU tariffs on Chinese EVs to accelerate plant closures in Europe, Tavares says Tariffs are a "good communication tool" but have side effects, Tavares said during the Paris auto show on Oct. 14. "It increases the overcapacity of the manufacturing system of Europe. The way to avoid custom duties is to build in Europe," he added. "You are accelerating the need to shut down plants." Earlier this month, EU member states narrowly backed import duties on Chinese-made EVs of up to 45 percent, meant to counter what the European Commission says are unfair subsidies from Beijing to Chinese automakers. Beijing denies unfair competition and has threatened countermeasures. Speaking to Italian media at the Paris show, Tavares mentioned the case of Chinese EV giant BYD, which is building its first European assembly plant in Hungary. "Chinese carmakers will not go to Germany or France or Italy to build their cars, because they would have cost disadvantages there, starting from energy costs," he said. BYD Executive Vice President Stella Li slammed the tariffs but said it planned to make almost all the cars it sells in Europe locally. BYD plans to produce components in Europe and assemble battery packs at its European plants in Hungary and Turkey, importing only the battery cell from China, Li said at Paris show. BYD is still deciding whether to pass the cost of tariffs - 17 percent for BYD on top of an existing tariff of 10 percent - onto consumers or absorb the hit, Li said, adding she did not expect BYD to be able to sell cars in Europe for under €30,000 ($32,745). "We disagree a lot on the calculations... it's not a fair judgement," Li said. "Politicians should stay away from tariffs, adding more cost to auto manufacturing and confusing the auto industry." Also in Paris, Tianshu Xin, CEO of the Leapmotor, which is controlled by Stellantis, said the EU tariffs could impact which models the company makes in Europe at Stellantis plants, but said it was too soon to say which ones. When asked about whether the company would pass on tariff costs to consumers, Xin said decisions were not yet finalized but the company was capable of absorbing some costs because 60 percent of its vehicle development is done in-house. European governments, including Italy, are trying to attract Asian automakers as the companies step up their commercial presence in the region. Manufacturing cars in Europe would allow them, under certain conditions, to avoid duties on EVs being introduced by the European Union. The EU's new tariffs on China-built electric vehicles range from 7.8 percent for Tesla, which is low because the company gets few Chinese government subsidies, to as high as 35.3 percent for automakers such as MG owner SAIC that did not cooperate with the EU's anti-subsidy probe. When the existing 10 percent tariff applied to imports in the EU is included, the rates will be as high as 45 percent. (ANE)

In Germania secondo una ricerca della unione dei assicuratori la quota delle vendite bev ai clienti privati nel anno 2024 fino settembre e a 3,6%. E poi, anche secondo questa ricerca/analisi dei dati assicurazione la quota dei possessori bev che tornano ad una ice e sempre piu in salita. In 2024 ca.di 34% dei ex-possessori bev ritornano.

...non basterebbe..." (Giulia Q (228g) + T03 (0g)) : 2 = 114g " quindi rimane ancora una multa per 25g. 😝

Direi che questo e quasi esattamente la cifra del output di un stabilmento standard a 60 unita al ora. Questo ritmo al momento si vede (non solo in europa) come la velocita ideale per una linea. 60 x 8ore x 2 turni x 5 giorni alla settimana sono 211.000 al anno. Per flessibilita si puo cambiare i turni alla settimana con una aggiunta al sabato ecc., ma con questi 60/ora sei nel range di 200-250k al anno.

Per un ruolo cosi come innovatore in era difficile sicuramente non serve un „sales man“, cosa sono tutti questi tre - serve un tecnico con visioni.

…Boh…ancora un vecchio uomo come capo in un periodo di transizione estrema??? Non mi sembra una buona idea 😝

Aptiv (in parte Ex-Delphi) e una dei top25 fornitore automotive globale, secondo me sicuramente sanno molto bene le date per le SOP di molte macchine. Solo imbarrazzante che escono questi dati per le nuove Alfa con il loro logo 😝.

VAG Q3/25 Nord-america - +7% Sud-America - +15% Europa - -1% Cina - -10% (Volkswagen Group) Porsche per regione Taycan globale -50%.

Polestar CEO starts review after deliveries disappoint New boss Michael Lohscheller said the Swedish EV maker will develop its commercial capabilities so it can go “from showing to actively selling cars.” New Polestar CEO Michael Lohscheller has launched a review of operations and strategy after the struggling electric-car maker reported weaker-than-expected deliveries. The Swedish manufacturer will develop its commercial capabilities so it can go “from showing to actively selling cars,” Lohscheller said in a statement Oct. 11. His comments accompanied figures that fell short of analyst estimates. Polestar delivered 11,900 cars in the third quarter, 15 percent fewer than a year earlier, despite more than doubling the size of its lineup this year. The company said it expects 2024 revenue to be similar to last year, reaching a positive gross profit margin in the fourth quarter. It reaffirmed a goal of achieving cash flow breakeven by the end of next year but with lower volumes than it was previously targeting. Polestar shares fell 4.4 percent in premarket trading in New York, having already tumbled by more than a third this year through Thursday's close. Controlled by Chinese billionaire Li Shufu, Polestar has struggled with delays in rolling out new models, while competition has been especially intense in China, a market it targeted for growth. The premium EV manufacturer has lost most of its market value since spinning out of Volvo Cars two years ago and listing on Nasdaq. Polestar announced in August that Lohscheller, who turned around Opel when he was CEO, would replace former chief Thomas Ingenlath, who struggled to contain losses and fix operational problems. Lohscheller officially started Oct. 1. The adoption of a more active sales model is already helping, Lohscheller said. The third quarter brought total deliveries for the first nine months of 2024 to 32,300, a 23 percent drop from a year earlier. The EV maker had said in August it remained confident that sales of its Polestar 3 and 4 models would boost sales in the second half of the year. Polestar said Friday that it and Li's Geely were engaged in “constructive dialog” with lenders regarding its loan covenants. The lenders remain supportive, Polestar added. The company said as recently as August that it had secured as much as $300 million in additional external funding, in the form of a one-year revolving term loan facility. (ANE)

Non credo, ma secondo me al momento non c'e una idea precisa e fissata come andare avanti con il marchio Alpina per il futuro.

Anche in Cina la quota bev non sale molto sopra i 20%, il boom delle Nev in questo mercato fanno le Phev. Anche in Cina la praticabilita di una bev e limitata.

Come il nome gia dice, il passato e passato e morte, non serve per un futuro, per il futuro ci vuole qualcosa di nuovo non sempre lo stesso di ieri.

...hmmm...per fare disegni retro e vecchi di altro ieri non si deve sapere molto.........

...molto probabile lo stesso gruppo/reparto della BMW Individual a Moosthenning che ha avuto assemblato anche la M3 CSL.

No - 4er GC e G26, un progetto G24 semplicemente non esiste.

...eh si, un nuovo Maserati entry level su base STLA small con 1.2 136....... 😂😝

Per i prossimi anni ci sono ben altre cantiere e sfide che investire in un segmento morto.