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  1. 4200blu
    Mah...i marchi asiatici hanno aumentato in Italia la loro quota di mercato molto di piu rispetto i tedeschi nei ultimi 15-20 anni. Non e sempre e tutta colpa dei tedeschi....forse in primis e colpa e incapacita di FCA/Stellantis in cose di marketing e after sales, non degli altri.
  2. 4200blu
    L'invidia dei diseredati (=Alfisti)... 😂
  3. 4200blu
    Le mhev sono una evoluzione mhev+ con BSG + motore elettrico nel cambio (18kw out + 25kW recuperazione) piu una batteria LiFePo di 1,8kWh.
  4. 4200blu
    Piu tardi due Phev con 220/270kW e autonomia elettrica >100km.
  5. 4200blu
    Boh...una flessione in Europa tra 2018 e 2023 di >40% ... non sono sicuro se questo non e un motivo per lamentare.
  6. 4200blu
    ...ma anche qui le vendite non sono piu come erano una volta.........
  7. 4200blu
    ...nei risparmi del controlling.
  8. 4200blu
    ..sembra che alla clientela piace questa idea, perche dopo 3 design diversi alla serie vecchia la nuova ha 8 😂
  9. 4200blu
    Europa globale
  10. 4200blu
    Questa domanda devi chiedere a Maranello perche loro erano quelli che hanno inventato questa stupidaggine come primi 😝
  11. 4200blu
    perche? Una volta in "A" insieme con la high beam assist non c'e niente da commandare, premi una volta e poi potresti dimenticarla.
  12. 4200blu
    fixed 😜
  13. 4200blu
    citarne i temi che interessano i clienti, il peso alla fine interessa solo alla bar e forse una minoranza di petrol heads ma quelli che alla fine comprano e guidano queste macchine come aziendali.
  14. 4200blu
    Mhev e phev non sono ice? Cosa Ti aspetti?
  15. 4200blu
    No, vanno piu avanti.
  16. 4200blu
    perche la compattezza fuori Italia non conta molto, perche la ibrida in verita e solo mhev e la „automatica“ in verita non e una, nemmeno e una vero twin clutch e perche per molti piu spazio allo stesso prezzo e un argomento e conta piu rispetto una radio incluso e tutto il resto e lo stesso e la percezione della marca e un po meglio
  17. 4200blu
    Punto di riferimento o meno, fatto e per un cliente che allo stesso prezzi puo scegliere tra la Panda con poco spazio oppure la Citroen con piu spazio oppure un altro Citroen a 5000.- meno, telaio e motore sempre lo stesso.
  18. 4200blu
    eh si - certo!
  19. 4200blu
    In senso che e la stessa macchina solo con piu spazio ?
  20. 4200blu
    Leapmotor aims to take EVs global with Stellantis deal The partnership with Stellantis will “allow us to take the lead and go faster than some other Chinese automakers,” CEO Zhu Jiangming said. The Chinese automaker Leapmotor is little known outside its home country, and even there it is overshadowed by bigger players like BYD and Tesla. But Zhu Jiangming, Leapmotor's co-founder and CEO, expects that to all change soon, after striking a potentially transformational deal with Stellantis that will take Leapmotor’s electric vehicles to the rest of the world. “The original motivation to start Leapmotor was because the transition from internal combustion engines to EVs represents an amazing opportunity,” Zhu said in a wide-ranging interview late last month. The partnership with Stellantis will “allow us to take the lead and go faster than some other Chinese automakers.” The deal with Stellantis shows how quickly China’s new breed of EV upstarts have shaken up the global auto industry. Founded in 2015, Zhejiang Leapmotor delivered just over 33,000 vehicles in the first quarter, a fraction of the 624,398 shipped by BYD and the 1.335 million Stellantis delivered. Still, that puts Leapmotor near the top of China’s EV upstarts like Li, Huawei-backed Aito, and Nio. The attraction for Stellantis though, is Leapmotor’s technological know-how, which has allowed it to offer affordable EVs still packed with features like advanced driver assistance and intelligent cockpits that are the industry’s new battlefront as cars get smarter and more connected. For instance, Leapmotor’s C10 electric crossover costs 138,800 yuan ($19,100) and comes with a range of 530 km miles), winning comparisons with Tesla’s Model Y, which starts at 249,900 yuan in China. “Myself and my team, we are good at electrical systems technology,” said Zhu, explaining his expertise was gained working for Motorola and then founding the surveillance-camera company Zhejiang Dahua. That is an advantage when making EVs, where about 70 percent of the technological components are electrical and 30 percent mechanical. The ratio is the reverse for gasoline-powered cars, Zhu said. The core electrical parts that account for the majority of costs for Leapmotor EVs are produced in-house, allowing the company to cut out suppliers and save on expenses. This makes it one of the few Chinese EV manufacturers that is highly vertically integrated, along with BYD, and allows Leapmotor to sell at an affordable price point and survive what has been a bruising price war in the hotly competitive market. Those capabilities and cost-controls were what attracted Stellantis to propose the partnership, in which the European automaker invested €1.5 billion ($1.6 billion) for a 21 percent stake in Leapmotor. It also set up a joint venture to build and sell Leapmotor’s cars outside China through Stellantis’ global network. The tie-up is now exploring assembly and sales of Leapmotor’s T03 compact hatchback and mid-size C10 SUV in nine European countries and has tested complete knock-down kit (CKD) assembly in Poland. But Stellantis’ other plants in the region, including in France and Italy, are also being considered and a final decision is yet to be made, according to Leapmotor co-President Michael Wu. Still, the deal has not been without some controversy, given Zhu’s role as co-founder of Dahua Technology — which has been sanctioned as a national security threat by the U.S. and previously held a stake in Leapmotor. However, Zhu said that after the partnership was finalized last year and Stellantis purchased Dahua’s shares, Leapmotor no longer has any relationship or shared personnel with the surveillance firm. Zhu also hit back at U.S. and EU claims that China’s EV industry runs at overcapacity and surplus cars are exported. The EU earlier this month imposed provisional tariffs of as much as 48 percent on Chinese EVs, while the U.S. has slapped a 100 percent duty on EVs from China. Canada last month said it’s weighing tariffs as well. Leapmotor’s Jinhua factory is running at just over 70 percent of its annual capacity of more than 300,000 vehicles and could reach 80 percent by the end of the year, Zhu said. The company is also planning another plant for a new product line launching in 2025, in Hangzhou’s Qiantang district, which also has an estimated annual capacity of about 300,000 units, he said. And while Leapmotor has received support from China’s government, it’s nowhere near what the U.S. and EU claim, he added. China’s EV industry developed as a result of steady guidance that made many realize it is the direction of the future, so everyone is working toward that, Zhu said. (ANE)
  21. 4200blu
    Ma se prendi Europa, non solo Italia, poi aspetto un po'diverso. (2024 = estrapolazione YTD05/5*12)
  22. 4200blu
    eh si...ma Tu vivi in Italia...fai lo stesso a Colonia, Amburgo, Düsseldorf oppure Amsterdam ecc. - poi vedi reazioni molto diversi. E spesso i piu giovani trovano imbarazzante - ho qualche amici dove le figlie trovano la gia GTI o la JCW della madre come "no go" e una cosa di altro ieri.
  23. 4200blu
    naturalmente no - la maggior parte e importata (Marklines statistics)
  24. 4200blu
    ...forse perche oggi molta gente trovano un auto rombante obsoleta e sopratutto imbarazzante?
  25. 4200blu
    Si certo, ma tutti questi bev che vendono in grandi volumi sono modelli mass market fino 300-350.000 Renminbi. I clienti che hanno davvero soldi comprano ancora ice.
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