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Stellantis shuffles China leadership, names executives to Leapmotor board PARIS -- After taking a stake in the Chinese EV maker Leapmotor, Stellantis has shuffled its leadership in China, naming current COO Gregoire Olivier as head of a new liaison office to Leapmotor, and promoting CFO Doug Ostermann to COO. Olivier and Ostermann will also serve as board members at Leapmotor. Both he and Ostermann will report to Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares. As head of the liaison office, Olivier will oversee the creation of a joint venture between the two companies, and coordinate the use of Stellantis’ distribution and sales operations, among other responsibilities. "Gregoire and Doug have been working hand-in-hand over the last two years to craft a new strategy and open new ways of growing our business, and I trust both of them to give a new impetus in their respective roles,” Tavares said in a news release on Wednesday. Olivier joined Stellantis in 2006 as head of PSA Group’s parts-maker Faurecia, after working in the French civil service and other industries. At PSA, Olivier became senior vice president China in 2010 and in 2016 was named senior vice president for mobility services. He was named head of PSA's China operations in 2020, and retained that position at Stellantis when PSA merged with Fiat Chrysler in 2021 to form the group. Ostermann joined Fiat Chrysler Automobiles in 2016 as group treasurer, after working in other industries for a decade. He started his career at General Motors in 1995. Ostermann was given added responsibility as FCA's head of global business development in 2018, and became CFO China for Stellantis in January 2021. (ANE)
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Si perche tutto il gruppo non e premium, non fa nessun senso in un complesso di 7Mio unite fare 50 o 100k premium, sopratutto se hai un managment che non capisce un minimo cosa e premium.
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Le prime X2 pronte sul finish a Ratisbona dopo lo SOP questa settimana
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Purtroppo no, sembra che le ente nazionale francese categorizzano le Leap soto la categoria "autres/altri". Le uniche T03 registrati in Europa fino settembre sono 2 in Polonia e una in Grecia.
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…per vendere quante alfa negli stati? Invece di mantenere un marchio e vendere 25k o 30k Alfa fatto con costi alti in Italia vendi 75 o 100k Leapmotor fatto in cina e hai guadagnato molto di piu.
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Abbastanza discreto, simile di Stelvio nei suoi anni migliore, YTD09 globale ca. 45k, di cui ca. 25k nel mercato casa giapponese, 20k rest of world.
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Stellantis will broaden its offering of low-priced battery-electric vehicles with models from Leapmotor starting late next year in Europe. After Stellantis' deal to buy a stake in the Chinese electric vehicle maker, the group now has another brand aimed at consumers "who are cost conscious but want the best technology in their products," CFO Natalie Knight said, describing Leapmotor as Stellantis’ “15th brand.” Stellantis and Leapmotor are establishing a joint venture incorporated in the Netherlands for the export and sale of Leapmotor's models outside China. Knight said Europe will be the first market for Leapmotor's EVs, with sales and revenue “fully consolidated” into the Stellantis balance sheet. The JV will also distribute Leapmotor products to other global markets, Knight said. It will have “long term” exclusivity on Leapmotor cars sold outside of China, she said. The JV includes the option to build Leapmotor models in Europe, which could be an option if the EU imposes high tariffs on cars built in China, Knight said on Tuesday on the automaker’s third-quarter results call with analysts. "You will see the Chinese position grow in the [European] market in some way, shape or form," she said. "Collaborating is a way to address that issue in a thoughtful way." The European Commission has launched an investigation into Chinese government subsidies for EVs amid fears that Europe could be “flooded” with inexpensive cars built there. 500,000 sales Stellantis will invest about 1.5 billion euros ($1.6 billion) to acquire a 20 percent equity stake in Leapmotor's parent company. The two companies will set up a Dutch-based joint venture called Leapmotor International. It will be controlled by Stellantis, which will have a 51 percent stake. The joint venture targets 500,000 sales outside of China by 2030, according to Stellantis's third-quarter results presentation, which also said that Leapmotor aims to sell 1 million units annually in China in the long term. Leapmotor delivered about 111,000 NEV units in China in 2022, Stellantis said. Knight said that there were no plans to give the Leapmotor's new Four-Leaf Clover Leap 3.0 electric and electronic architecture to other Stellantis brands. EV growth Stellantis on Tuesday said its global BEV sales grew by 37 percent in the third quarter, mainly driven by the Jeep Avenger battery-electric small SUV and higher light commercial vehicle sales led by the Citroen e-Berlingo. "We are on track to exceed 300,000 BEV vehicles globally this year, Knight said, adding that the automaker is one of the top performers in Europe. According to figures from Dataforce, Volkswagen Group is Europe's top-seller of BEVs and also in overall vehicle sales. In BEV sales, Tesla is No. 2 ahead of Stellantis at No. 3. Knight is confident that the new Citroen E-C3, which starts at 23,300 euros in France and Germany, will reinforce Stellantis's position in small electric car sales. The cooperation with Leapmotor will permit Stellantis to broaden its benchmarking on BEV production, she said. "Working with Leapmotor, we will be able to have even better real time benchmarks, so that we are always aware of what it takes to win against the best competitors in the market," Knight said. Stellantis is already competitive on BEV costs, Knight said, adding that the E-C3 will be profitable from the start. She said Stellantis is continuously looking at ways to reduce the high costs of electric cars. CEO Carlos Tavares has said that producing a BEV costs about 40 percent more than corresponding internal combustion models. Knight said Stellantis continuously considers how it can innovate quickly, how it can bring more verticalization to its processes and how to better utilize low-cost countries. "Those are things that you have seen very successfully as part of our DNA,” she said, adding that benchmarking with Leapmotor “will add another dimension -- the agile environment of the Chinese ecosystem." (ANE)
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Sviluppo del mercato bev fino settembre per regione e previsione della produzione delle elettriche per regione per i prossimi anni (PwC Price Waterhouse automotive)
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Oppure Simca....... o Talbot, Sunbeam, Hillman, Singer............
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Ma "consegne" in questo articolo molto probabile sono "shipments" = "whole sale", quindi OEM a importatori/dealer, non sono vendite al cliente finale. Almeno in Germania secondo KBA le immatricolazione non sono 709 (come scritto nel articolo) ma 764 (in questo caso hanno ridotto lo stock delle dealer con piu vendite rispetto le shipments).
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10k vedo duro, YTD09 stanno a ca. 6500 - e Urus sono 75% delle vendite Lambo.
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MX5 al momento sta a ca. 20k unite/anno globale, una sportiva Erev con molto probabile volume ancora piu basso e costi piu alti per tutti le complicazione del propulsore direi assolutamente no - non c'e un business case.
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VW said to plan job cuts, further launch delays at software unit The software-defined SSP platform planned next-generation models starting with VW brand's Trinity electric flagship is being redeveloped, a business magazine reported. BERLIN -- Volkswagen Group plans to cut 2,000 jobs at its software unit Cariad as part of a restructuring plan that will see new software architectures delayed even further, a German business publication said. The job cuts would take place from 2024 until the end of 2025, manager magazin reported, citing leading managers of the group. The new 1.2 software architecture that is due to be used in the upcoming Audi Q6 E-tron and the Porsche Macan all-electric models will be delayed by 16-18 weeks, the report said, while the next level 2.0 architecture originally planned for 2025 is being completely redeveloped. The Q6 E-tron is now expected to arrive in March instead of by the end of this year, Automotive News Europe sister publication Automobilwoche reported. The Q6 E-tron is the first model on the newly developed PPE architecture that has an 800-volt system and faster charging times. It's a key pillar of Audi's product offensive to compete with electric offerings from Tesla and German rivals BMW and Mercedes-Benz. VW Group's software-defined scalable systems (SSP) platform planned for the automaker's next-generation models starting with VW brand's Trinity electric flagship is also being redeveloped, manager magazin reported. However, the plan still requires approval from the works council, which has negotiated job guarantees for workers until mid-2025. "We don't accept this method of cutting jobs across the board. There is no concrete information on where positions should be cut in terms of structure and tasks," a VW works council spokesperson said. VW Group appointed Peter Bosch, former production chief at Bentley, as Cariad's new CEO on June 1 in an effort to get the unit back on track. A Cariad spokesperson declined to comment on the article, but said Bosch has been working on a "comprehensive transformation plan" for repositioning the company since the summer. "The transformation planning is in its final stages and will be communicated once the relevant bodies have passed a resolution," added the spokesperson. (ANE)
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In Germania si calcola come costi manodopera/kdiretti delle operai alla catena per l'assemblaggio finale/finish tra 1,5 - 2€ per minuto. Una vettura in questa zona (incluso i premontaggi) della produzione (che e quella con i costi umani piu alti, perche carrozzeria in grezza e verniciatura sono automatizzati a 90%) ha una somma di ca. 600-700min (dipende naturalmente un po' del concetto, quanti premontaggi ecc.). Quindi sono costi per operai per macchina tra 900 e 1400.- Euro che significa che per un aumento di 900$ per macchina hanno raddopiato i stipendi?? Non e realistico questa cifra di Ford, e sciocchezza come @itr83 ha gia scritto.
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Lancia Ypsilon 2024 - Prj. L21 (Spy & Teaser)
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Stessa batteria Peugeot 54kWh oppure qualcosa maggiorata per compensare il consumo piu alto dell motore piu potente?- 2393 risposte
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Li Mega charging test was exposed in a video, revealing the MPV has a maximum charging capacity of 552 kW. Even when the battery reaches 80%, Li Mega can still be charged with 315 kW power. The video showed the Li Mega charged from 10% to 80% in 10 minutes. From 6% to 80%, it was 11 minutes and 2 seconds. That is 77.3 kWh of capacity in 11 minutes. Until 60% charged battery, Li Mega accepted not less than 400 kW of power. During the 60-80% period, it was still over 300 kW, and over 80%, it reached 315 kW. See the table at the end of the article for more details. Li Auto broke the maximum charging capacity record held by Xpeng G9, which can receive electricity 445 kW of power. For comparison, the Lotus Eletre’s maximum input is 430 kW, while the Porsche Taycan can do 270 kW. The Mega is equipped with CATL’s Qilin battery with a charge rate of 5C. The company previously announced that Li Mega could add 500 km of range in 12 minutes. The video also revealed that Li Mega can accept a maximum of 711.6 amps while charging. That would not be easy to reach in real-life usage as, for example, Huawei’s 600 kW supercharger, which is the most powerful you can find alongside roads in China, has a maximum output current of 600 amps. The new minivan is built on an 800V platform, and thanks to CATL’s 5C battery technology, the EV can charge 50% in 7 minutes and 75% in 10 minutes. CATL announced on September 1 that it will supply its latest 5C Qilin battery to Li Mega, providing a 500 km range in 12 minutes. 5C explained If we oversimplify, the 5C charge rate says how many times the battery can be charged in one hour. In this case, five times, so in theory, you charge the entire battery in 12 minutes. In other words, 5C means “five times the capacity,” so if you have, for example, a 1000 mAh battery, you can charge it with a 5000 mA current. If you have a 4C battery, it can be charged four times in one hour, so having a full battery would take 15 minutes. Probably the best way to explain 5C is to compare Li Mega’s 30% – 80% charging time with other 800V architecture EVs: Li Mega: 7 minutes 46 seconds, peak power 522 kW Avatr 11: 11 minutes 21 seconds, peak power 218 kW Xpeng G6: 20 minutes, peak power 291 kW Porsche Taycan 4S: 18 minutes; peak power 161kW Li Auto’s first BEV Li Mega minivan is Li Auto’s first tap into all-electric vehicles, also called BEVs, as the Beijing-based automaker previously produced only electric range extended vehicles (EREVs). EREV is an EV with a small ICE that only works as a power generator for the battery and is not connected to the wheels. The reason was that Li Xiang, CEO of Li Auto, wasn’t convinced that infrastructure and technology were ready for BEVs and thus took a different approach than anybody else. Xiang announced that if they launch BEV, it will be the right way so people have zero range anxiety. That would mean fair enough fast charging and sufficient charging infrastructure. Li’s 3000 superchargers by 2025 Li Xiang announced that the company plans to invest 10 billion yuan (1.4 billion USD) to build a network of 3000 superchargers around China by 2025. The first batch of 300 superchargers will operate by the end of 2023. Li Auto already operates 50 5C superchargers in China. “The investment of 10 billion yuan will be amortized over five years, and since we have over 100 billion yuan annual revenue, the cost is not as high as it seems,” Xiang commented on his social network. Li Auto plans to build stations in a 3+1 setup, meaning there will always be one 480 kW power charger and three 250 kW chargers. (CNC)
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"......Stellantis übernimmt rund 20 Prozent am chinesischen Elektroauto-Hersteller Leapmotor. Der Konzern investiere 1,5 Milliarden Euro in die Beteiligung, teilte Stellantis am Donnerstag mit. Gleichzeitig wollen die beiden Unternehmen ein Joint-Venture gründen, das künftig exklusiv den Export und Vertrieb sowie die Herstellung von Leapmotor-Modellen außerhalb Chinas übernehmen soll. In diesem Gemeinschaftsunternehmen, das Leapmotor International heißen soll, übernimmt Stellantis mit 51 Prozent der Anteile die Führung und stellt den CEO. Der Konzern erhält außerdem zwei Sitze im Board of Directors von Leapmotor. Die globale Präsenz von Stellantis solle dazu dienen, den internationalen Absatz der Marke Leapmotor zunächst vor allem in Europa zu beschleunigen. Gleichzeitig soll Leapmotor Stellantis dabei helfen, seine Ziele im Hinblick auf die Elektrifizierung der Modellpalette zu erreichen......" Traduzione con DeepL: "...Stellantis sta acquisendo circa il 20% del produttore cinese di auto elettriche Leapmotor. Il gruppo sta investendo 1,5 miliardi di euro nella partecipazione, ha annunciato giovedì Stellantis. Allo stesso tempo, le due aziende intendono costituire una joint venture che in futuro si occuperà esclusivamente dell'esportazione, della distribuzione e della produzione dei modelli Leapmotor al di fuori della Cina. In questa joint venture, che si chiamerà Leapmotor International, Stellantis assumerà la guida con il 51% delle azioni e fornirà l'amministratore delegato. Il gruppo avrà anche due posti nel consiglio di amministrazione di Leapmotor. La presenza globale di Stellantis ha lo scopo di accelerare le vendite internazionali del marchio Leapmotor, inizialmente soprattutto in Europa. Allo stesso tempo, Leapmotor aiuterà Stellantis a raggiungere gli obiettivi di elettrificazione della sua gamma di modelli...." (Automobil-Industrie.de / DeepL)
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Mercedes CFO says EV adoption rate lower than expected Finance boss Harald Wilhelm said the EV market is a "pretty brutal space." Mercedes-Benz is seeing lower than expected consumer adoption rates for electric vehicles, CFO Harald Wilhelm said on Thursday, describing the EV market as a "pretty brutal space." The company remained committed to its EV targets but could benefit from its combustion engine portfolio if margins on EVs remained lower than previously assumed, he said. "With some traditional players selling BEV vehicles below the level of ICE (internal combustion engine cars) ... this is a pretty brutal space," Wilhelm said. "I can hardly imagine the current status quo is fully sustainable for everybody." Wilhelm's comments were made as part of Mercedes' third quarter earnings reporting. The luxury carmaker on Thursday reported a 12.4 percent adjusted return on sales in its cars division in the third quarter. It expects to be on the lower end of a 12 to 14 percent forecast for the year because of price competition, inflation, high interest rates, geopolitical uncertainty and supply chain issues. The automaker expects to maintain its sales rate next quarter. Earnings before interest and taxes (EBIT) across the Mercedes-Benz Group fell 6.8 percent to 4.8 billion euros ($5.1 billion) while its vans earnings jumped 44 percent to 715 million euros with an adjusted return on sales of 15 percent. (Reuters/ANE)
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Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares said the European Commission's probe into whether cheaper Chinese electric vehicles exported to Europe benefit from state subsidies was not the best way to tackle global issues. Tavares was speaking Thursday at a press conference in the Chinese city of Hangzhou following the announcement that Stellantis is buying a 21 percent stake in Leapmotor for $1.6 billion. Tavares has in the past been a vocal critic of lower-cost Chinese imports into Europe, but told reporters the Leapmotor deal did not make Stellantis a "Trojan horse." "As we have global issues to face, we have to adopt a global mentality. We do not support a fragmented world. We like competition. To start a probe is not the best way to tackle those questions," he said. The European Commission began an investigation this month to decide whether to set up higher tariff barriers against what Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has called a flood of cheaper Chinese EV imports benefiting from state subsidies. It is examining EVs exported to Europe from China both from Chinese manufacturers and foreign automakers, such as Tesla, BMW and Renault. In January, Tavares said European politicians must help the region's automakers compete with Chinese companies that are expanding into Europe with aggressively priced vehicles. Stellantis and Leapmotor will set up a joint venture based in the Netherlands, giving Stellantis exclusive rights for the export, sale and manufacturing of Leapmotor's products outside China. (Reuters/ANE)
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Stellantis/Leapmotor "....partenza delle Leapmotor fuori Cina come aggiunta dei prodotti Stellantis in Europa...." boh! Oltre all'acquisizione del 20% delle azioni di Leapmotor da parte di Stellantis, le società hanno concordato di costituire una joint venture per la produzione e la distribuzione di automobili al di fuori della Cina. Stellantis deterrà il 51% di questa joint venture. L'obiettivo della cooperazione è quello di incrementare le vendite di Leapmotor nel mercato altamente competitivo delle auto elettriche cinesi, ma anche al di fuori della Repubblica Popolare. È previsto un primo avvio in Europa. La gamma di auto elettriche di Leapmotor è complementare alla gamma di prodotti di Stellantis. Da diversi mesi si ipotizzava che Stellantis avrebbe acquisito una partecipazione in Leapmotor. L'anno scorso Carlos Tavares, capo di Stellantis, aveva annullato il progetto di una joint venture con il fornitore cinese GAC per la produzione di Jeep, perché insoddisfatto dell'avanzamento dei piani. Anche il mercato automobilistico più grande del mondo gioca un ruolo minore per il gruppo multimarca. Includendo le joint venture non consolidate, Stellantis ha consegnato appena 90.000 auto nella regione Asia-Pacifico, comprese Cina e India, nella prima metà del 2023. In confronto, la rivale Volkswagen ha consegnato 1,45 milioni di veicoli nella sola Cina. (Automobilproduktion, traduzione DeepL) Fino al momento Leapmotor non sembra proprio un grande outperformer dei marchi cinesi
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