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    VW said to plan job cuts, further launch delays at software unit The software-defined SSP platform planned next-generation models starting with VW brand's Trinity electric flagship is being redeveloped, a business magazine reported. BERLIN -- Volkswagen Group plans to cut 2,000 jobs at its software unit Cariad as part of a restructuring plan that will see new software architectures delayed even further, a German business publication said. The job cuts would take place from 2024 until the end of 2025, manager magazin reported, citing leading managers of the group. The new 1.2 software architecture that is due to be used in the upcoming Audi Q6 E-tron and the Porsche Macan all-electric models will be delayed by 16-18 weeks, the report said, while the next level 2.0 architecture originally planned for 2025 is being completely redeveloped. The Q6 E-tron is now expected to arrive in March instead of by the end of this year, Automotive News Europe sister publication Automobilwoche reported. The Q6 E-tron is the first model on the newly developed PPE architecture that has an 800-volt system and faster charging times. It's a key pillar of Audi's product offensive to compete with electric offerings from Tesla and German rivals BMW and Mercedes-Benz. VW Group's software-defined scalable systems (SSP) platform planned for the automaker's next-generation models starting with VW brand's Trinity electric flagship is also being redeveloped, manager magazin reported. However, the plan still requires approval from the works council, which has negotiated job guarantees for workers until mid-2025. "We don't accept this method of cutting jobs across the board. There is no concrete information on where positions should be cut in terms of structure and tasks," a VW works council spokesperson said. VW Group appointed Peter Bosch, former production chief at Bentley, as Cariad's new CEO on June 1 in an effort to get the unit back on track. A Cariad spokesperson declined to comment on the article, but said Bosch has been working on a "comprehensive transformation plan" for repositioning the company since the summer. "The transformation planning is in its final stages and will be communicated once the relevant bodies have passed a resolution," added the spokesperson. (ANE)
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    In Germania si calcola come costi manodopera/kdiretti delle operai alla catena per l'assemblaggio finale/finish tra 1,5 - 2€ per minuto. Una vettura in questa zona (incluso i premontaggi) della produzione (che e quella con i costi umani piu alti, perche carrozzeria in grezza e verniciatura sono automatizzati a 90%) ha una somma di ca. 600-700min (dipende naturalmente un po' del concetto, quanti premontaggi ecc.). Quindi sono costi per operai per macchina tra 900 e 1400.- Euro che significa che per un aumento di 900$ per macchina hanno raddopiato i stipendi?? Non e realistico questa cifra di Ford, e sciocchezza come @itr83 ha gia scritto.
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    Stessa batteria Peugeot 54kWh oppure qualcosa maggiorata per compensare il consumo piu alto dell motore piu potente?
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    Li Mega charging test was exposed in a video, revealing the MPV has a maximum charging capacity of 552 kW. Even when the battery reaches 80%, Li Mega can still be charged with 315 kW power. The video showed the Li Mega charged from 10% to 80% in 10 minutes. From 6% to 80%, it was 11 minutes and 2 seconds. That is 77.3 kWh of capacity in 11 minutes. Until 60% charged battery, Li Mega accepted not less than 400 kW of power. During the 60-80% period, it was still over 300 kW, and over 80%, it reached 315 kW. See the table at the end of the article for more details. Li Auto broke the maximum charging capacity record held by Xpeng G9, which can receive electricity 445 kW of power. For comparison, the Lotus Eletre’s maximum input is 430 kW, while the Porsche Taycan can do 270 kW. The Mega is equipped with CATL’s Qilin battery with a charge rate of 5C. The company previously announced that Li Mega could add 500 km of range in 12 minutes. The video also revealed that Li Mega can accept a maximum of 711.6 amps while charging. That would not be easy to reach in real-life usage as, for example, Huawei’s 600 kW supercharger, which is the most powerful you can find alongside roads in China, has a maximum output current of 600 amps. The new minivan is built on an 800V platform, and thanks to CATL’s 5C battery technology, the EV can charge 50% in 7 minutes and 75% in 10 minutes. CATL announced on September 1 that it will supply its latest 5C Qilin battery to Li Mega, providing a 500 km range in 12 minutes. 5C explained If we oversimplify, the 5C charge rate says how many times the battery can be charged in one hour. In this case, five times, so in theory, you charge the entire battery in 12 minutes. In other words, 5C means “five times the capacity,” so if you have, for example, a 1000 mAh battery, you can charge it with a 5000 mA current. If you have a 4C battery, it can be charged four times in one hour, so having a full battery would take 15 minutes. Probably the best way to explain 5C is to compare Li Mega’s 30% – 80% charging time with other 800V architecture EVs: Li Mega: 7 minutes 46 seconds, peak power 522 kW Avatr 11: 11 minutes 21 seconds, peak power 218 kW Xpeng G6: 20 minutes, peak power 291 kW Porsche Taycan 4S: 18 minutes; peak power 161kW Li Auto’s first BEV Li Mega minivan is Li Auto’s first tap into all-electric vehicles, also called BEVs, as the Beijing-based automaker previously produced only electric range extended vehicles (EREVs). EREV is an EV with a small ICE that only works as a power generator for the battery and is not connected to the wheels. The reason was that Li Xiang, CEO of Li Auto, wasn’t convinced that infrastructure and technology were ready for BEVs and thus took a different approach than anybody else. Xiang announced that if they launch BEV, it will be the right way so people have zero range anxiety. That would mean fair enough fast charging and sufficient charging infrastructure. Li’s 3000 superchargers by 2025 Li Xiang announced that the company plans to invest 10 billion yuan (1.4 billion USD) to build a network of 3000 superchargers around China by 2025. The first batch of 300 superchargers will operate by the end of 2023. Li Auto already operates 50 5C superchargers in China. “The investment of 10 billion yuan will be amortized over five years, and since we have over 100 billion yuan annual revenue, the cost is not as high as it seems,” Xiang commented on his social network. Li Auto plans to build stations in a 3+1 setup, meaning there will always be one 480 kW power charger and three 250 kW chargers. (CNC)
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    "......Stellantis übernimmt rund 20 Prozent am chinesischen Elektroauto-Hersteller Leapmotor. Der Konzern investiere 1,5 Milliarden Euro in die Beteiligung, teilte Stellantis am Donnerstag mit. Gleichzeitig wollen die beiden Unternehmen ein Joint-Venture gründen, das künftig exklusiv den Export und Vertrieb sowie die Herstellung von Leapmotor-Modellen außerhalb Chinas übernehmen soll. In diesem Gemeinschaftsunternehmen, das Leapmotor International heißen soll, übernimmt Stellantis mit 51 Prozent der Anteile die Führung und stellt den CEO. Der Konzern erhält außerdem zwei Sitze im Board of Directors von Leapmotor. Die globale Präsenz von Stellantis solle dazu dienen, den internationalen Absatz der Marke Leapmotor zunächst vor allem in Europa zu beschleunigen. Gleichzeitig soll Leapmotor Stellantis dabei helfen, seine Ziele im Hinblick auf die Elektrifizierung der Modellpalette zu erreichen......" Traduzione con DeepL: "...Stellantis sta acquisendo circa il 20% del produttore cinese di auto elettriche Leapmotor. Il gruppo sta investendo 1,5 miliardi di euro nella partecipazione, ha annunciato giovedì Stellantis. Allo stesso tempo, le due aziende intendono costituire una joint venture che in futuro si occuperà esclusivamente dell'esportazione, della distribuzione e della produzione dei modelli Leapmotor al di fuori della Cina. In questa joint venture, che si chiamerà Leapmotor International, Stellantis assumerà la guida con il 51% delle azioni e fornirà l'amministratore delegato. Il gruppo avrà anche due posti nel consiglio di amministrazione di Leapmotor. La presenza globale di Stellantis ha lo scopo di accelerare le vendite internazionali del marchio Leapmotor, inizialmente soprattutto in Europa. Allo stesso tempo, Leapmotor aiuterà Stellantis a raggiungere gli obiettivi di elettrificazione della sua gamma di modelli...." (Automobil-Industrie.de / DeepL)
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    ...ma forse questa non e la prima priorita per una b-hatch premium, contano sicuramente altre cose, neanche una Mini classic non e un miracolo di spazio, non interessa nessuno.
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    Mercedes CFO says EV adoption rate lower than expected Finance boss Harald Wilhelm said the EV market is a "pretty brutal space." Mercedes-Benz is seeing lower than expected consumer adoption rates for electric vehicles, CFO Harald Wilhelm said on Thursday, describing the EV market as a "pretty brutal space." The company remained committed to its EV targets but could benefit from its combustion engine portfolio if margins on EVs remained lower than previously assumed, he said. "With some traditional players selling BEV vehicles below the level of ICE (internal combustion engine cars) ... this is a pretty brutal space," Wilhelm said. "I can hardly imagine the current status quo is fully sustainable for everybody." Wilhelm's comments were made as part of Mercedes' third quarter earnings reporting. The luxury carmaker on Thursday reported a 12.4 percent adjusted return on sales in its cars division in the third quarter. It expects to be on the lower end of a 12 to 14 percent forecast for the year because of price competition, inflation, high interest rates, geopolitical uncertainty and supply chain issues. The automaker expects to maintain its sales rate next quarter. Earnings before interest and taxes (EBIT) across the Mercedes-Benz Group fell 6.8 percent to 4.8 billion euros ($5.1 billion) while its vans earnings jumped 44 percent to 715 million euros with an adjusted return on sales of 15 percent. (Reuters/ANE)
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    Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares said the European Commission's probe into whether cheaper Chinese electric vehicles exported to Europe benefit from state subsidies was not the best way to tackle global issues. Tavares was speaking Thursday at a press conference in the Chinese city of Hangzhou following the announcement that Stellantis is buying a 21 percent stake in Leapmotor for $1.6 billion. Tavares has in the past been a vocal critic of lower-cost Chinese imports into Europe, but told reporters the Leapmotor deal did not make Stellantis a "Trojan horse." "As we have global issues to face, we have to adopt a global mentality. We do not support a fragmented world. We like competition. To start a probe is not the best way to tackle those questions," he said. The European Commission began an investigation this month to decide whether to set up higher tariff barriers against what Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has called a flood of cheaper Chinese EV imports benefiting from state subsidies. It is examining EVs exported to Europe from China both from Chinese manufacturers and foreign automakers, such as Tesla, BMW and Renault. In January, Tavares said European politicians must help the region's automakers compete with Chinese companies that are expanding into Europe with aggressively priced vehicles. Stellantis and Leapmotor will set up a joint venture based in the Netherlands, giving Stellantis exclusive rights for the export, sale and manufacturing of Leapmotor's products outside China. (Reuters/ANE)
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    Stellantis/Leapmotor "....partenza delle Leapmotor fuori Cina come aggiunta dei prodotti Stellantis in Europa...." boh! Oltre all'acquisizione del 20% delle azioni di Leapmotor da parte di Stellantis, le società hanno concordato di costituire una joint venture per la produzione e la distribuzione di automobili al di fuori della Cina. Stellantis deterrà il 51% di questa joint venture. L'obiettivo della cooperazione è quello di incrementare le vendite di Leapmotor nel mercato altamente competitivo delle auto elettriche cinesi, ma anche al di fuori della Repubblica Popolare. È previsto un primo avvio in Europa. La gamma di auto elettriche di Leapmotor è complementare alla gamma di prodotti di Stellantis. Da diversi mesi si ipotizzava che Stellantis avrebbe acquisito una partecipazione in Leapmotor. L'anno scorso Carlos Tavares, capo di Stellantis, aveva annullato il progetto di una joint venture con il fornitore cinese GAC per la produzione di Jeep, perché insoddisfatto dell'avanzamento dei piani. Anche il mercato automobilistico più grande del mondo gioca un ruolo minore per il gruppo multimarca. Includendo le joint venture non consolidate, Stellantis ha consegnato appena 90.000 auto nella regione Asia-Pacifico, comprese Cina e India, nella prima metà del 2023. In confronto, la rivale Volkswagen ha consegnato 1,45 milioni di veicoli nella sola Cina. (Automobilproduktion, traduzione DeepL) Fino al momento Leapmotor non sembra proprio un grande outperformer dei marchi cinesi
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    non credo che per questo volume americano fa senso di produrre una versione ice...
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    Le vendite scarse della Giulia in Europa sono la conseguenza che non riescono di entrare nel mercato delle flotte/aziendale con la Giulia (e questo segmento in Europa e 90% aziendale). Se vogliono migliorare questo/partecipare piu a questo mercato aziendale per il futuro, poi funzionera solo con bev, perche flotte che comprano ice in futuro non ci sono piu.
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    Il concetto phev e morto oppure sta morendo, tutte le flotte i prossimi 2-3 anni devono cambiare verso le bev (per raguingere i target sostenibile delle clienti) e come scrivi Tu stesso, tutta la gamma "successore-Giulia" ha un volume abbastanza piccola, questa piccola volume dividere in due macchine "diverse" (bev e ice) in senso economico non fa nessun senso.
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    Con la quota non sono d'accordo - il segmento D (berline + 4pCoupe) ha gia oggi (YTD-09 2023) in Europa intero una quota bev di 53,6%, solo al mercato italiano 59%, naturalmente grazie il Tesla 3, Polestar2 e i4 che fanno la massa di questo segmento. Questi clienti una Alfa seg-D del futuro deve conquistare.
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    ...ma in Italia Citroen non ha ridotto i prezzi nei giorni scorsi?? In Germania la C3 base dopo la riduzione costa 12.690.-€
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    ....boh...classe A ha fatto 2022 ca. 165k globale. Ma e vero, anche questa cifra non e rimunerativo. per questo Daimler lascia morire la classe A (come conosciamo oggi) per il futuro.
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    Sara una show di Renault e dopratutto dei Cinesi......... German brands to skip 2024 Geneva auto show Mercedes, BMW, Audi and VW will not take part in the show, which is being revived after a four-year absence MICHAEL GERSTER German automakers will skip next year's Geneva auto show in a blow for the event that is being revived after a four-year absence. BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Audi and Volkswagen brand will not have a presence at the show, spokespeople for the companies told Automotive News Europe sister publication Automobilwoche. "After careful consideration, Mercedes-Benz will not participate in the 2024 Geneva Motor Show," a Mercedes spokesperson said. Audi made a similar statement: "We won't be there in 2024. But this is not a general decision against Geneva," it said. BMW will not be at the show after reorganizing its event marketing activities in a "social first" approach that will make more use of social media platforms and live streaming. "We have added our own new formats, such as NextGen, while phasing out some existing formats," a spokesperson said. "This includes appearances in Geneva, Paris and Detroit. That's why we won't be in Geneva in 2024." VW Group's VW passenger car brand will also not be represented in Geneva, a spokesman said. Other VW Group brands such as Skoda, Cupra and Porsche have not yet made a decision on whether to be at Geneva. But the probability of participation was low, sources at the brands said. Stellantis brands including Peugeot, Citroen, Fiat and Opel are unlikely to attend. Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares is reluctant to spend millions on auto show appearances and the automaker has abandoned plans to participate in the 2024 CES tech expo in a cost-saving move. The 2024 show is scheduled to take place for the first time since a chaotic cancellation at the start of the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020 just days before the event was due to open. It's scheduled to take place from Feb. 26 to March 3 at its traditional venue, the Palexpo convention center near Geneva airport. Renault, Chinese presence Renault said on Oct. 20 that it will take part in next year's Geneva and Paris shows, along with all major motor shows in the regions where the group operates. Geneva show organizers have said they are in contact with about 20 Chinese brands and they hope that two-thirds of them will attend. (ANE)
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    ok vabene...ma con cosa poi vogliono motivare possibili clienti della triade per un cambio marchio/dealer/compagnia leasing ???
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    RIYADH -- Hyundai Motor Group will build a car plant in Saudi Arabia, joining electric vehicle maker Lucid Motors in producing cars in the oil-rich kingdom. Hyundai will build the factory jointly with the Public Investment Fund (PIF), Saudi Arabia's sovereign wealth fund. The plant will have an annual production capacity of 50,000 electric and internal combustion engines and electric vehicles cars and will be the first South Korean automobile factory in the Middle East, a joint statement said. PIF will hold a 70 percent stake in the new joint venture with Hyundai holding the remaining 30 percent. Total investment for the project is estimated to exceed $500 million. "Hyundai will also act as a strategic technology partner to support the development of the new manufacturing plant, by providing technical and commercial assistance," the joint statement said. The plant groundbreaking is planned for 2024, and production is expected to begin in 2026. No details were given of the models which would be made there. Hyundai will likely develop the facility at King Abdullah Economic City near Jeddah, according to Park Jiwoo, a senior manager at Hyundai's external affairs team. Developing a domestic auto industry centered around Jeddah is one part of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman's plans to diversify the country’s oil-dependent economy. The initiative is being spearheaded by the PIF, which invested in U.S.-based electric vehicle startup Lucid and got them to build their first international facility in Saudi Arabia. The PIF has also created its own EV brand called Ceer, and is investing internationally and domestically to secure the metals and minerals required to develop a supply chain for the industry. Saudi Arabia is aiming to manufacture more than 300,000 cars annually by 2030. (ANE)
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    Ma quanti decenni vuoi fare sempre lo stesso look?? Credi davvero che un cliente globale, che compra ogni due o tre anni una BMW nuova, vuole sempre i stessi stilemi alla macchina? Dopo piu di vent' anni basta con questi cerchi che non armonizza piu per niente con le nuove forme dei fari, sono semplicimente roba del museo.
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    Come Passat anche id7 sara un auto che sara 95% aziendale, quindi non e decisivo quante costerebbe di comprarla ma invece quale condizione di leasing faranno. Nesun dita compra una Passat e nessuna compra una id7, sono tutti in leasing.
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    ..id7 si produce ad Emden non a Zwickau 😉
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    si certo, nessun dubbio, ma secondo la logica di Osv, lunghezza 4,70m, e anche seg-D. Ma naturalmente la lunghezza non e un argomento bastevole per una categorizzazione.
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    ..sicuro?? Esempio attuale Monaco - Sixt share now --> auto disponibile piu vicino una Troc, 0,28ct/min piu 1.- per aprire (e la categoria piu economica, meno di 0,28ct non c'e offerta) Per andare di la al ufficio, dipende dal traffico, ma dura minimo 40min, quindi sono 12.20€ per una corsa. Stessa alla sera, per 22 giorni lavorativi al mese sono gia tra 500 e 550.-€ al mese e poi non sei andato nemmeno un chilometro per fare le spese, per portare le bambini, per andare al medico, al weekend per andare fuori citta. Se tutto questo fai con un share car, paghi molto, ma molto di piu rispetto una macchina privata e devi sempre cercare quando e una disponibile, non sei mai libera di andare quando vuoi.
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    ,,,,,,,,,,,🤔 Astra Kombi e anche 4,70, quindi anche Astra e seg-D ??
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