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bellissima foto... ma come dice qualcuno "Cerchiamo di evitare doppie discussioni" http://autopareri.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9609

topic già aperto....

ma se le ho postate io un mese fa'!

Con la griglia VW!!!

Auguri a tutti! Ci si risente a gennaio per quello che mi riguarda, più o meno all'apertura del salone di Detroit...

confermato da chi?

From Autocar Based on today’s chassis with its front strut and rear multi-link Z-axle suspension, the new Mini will be a similar size to today’s car, growing just a few millimetres in length, width, wheelbase and height. That will keep it at 3.6m long with a 2.4m long wheelbase, ensuring that the wheel-at-each-corner proportions remain. Designers will also resist the temptation to extend the rear overhang to create a bigger boot. ‘There are always pressures to make a new car bigger, but the Mini has to be small, otherwise it isn’t a Mini,’ said a source. As a result the interior package will be very similar to the current car’s, with detail changes to components like seats and interior trim squeezing an extra few millimetres of leg, head and shoulder room. ... The bonnet line will be higher to incorporate better pedestrian protection, shielding the windscreen wipers below the bonnet line, and also to smooth airflow over the windscreen. The headlights will remain as single, round units. Rumours of a twin-headlight design are dismissed by company insiders as ‘too much like Mercedes-Benz’. The bonnet design itself has been changed. In place of today’s clamshell, which is expensive to make, could be a conventional bonnet with split lines between the headlights and grille – a nod to the original Issigonis Mini. The front grille has also been redesigned, as can be seen on the prototype pictured overleaf. Deeper and slightly narrower than today’s grille, the three-bar design is a more prominent feature of the face of the new Mini. The shape of the grille is also closer to the original car’s. Significantly, it is more upright than today’s design, to comply with forthcoming pedestrian-impact laws. Under the main grille, the lower air intake is considerably bigger than today’s car’s. That’s because the new Cooper and Cooper S will be powered by turbocharged engines and their intercooler is located low down at the front of the car. The car pictured in our scoop photos (right) has to mimic the exact shape of the new Mini’s nose, because it is testing the new P105 version of the family of engines co-developed with Peugeot and Citroën. These engines will transform the Mini, whose main weakness has been its gruff, iron-block single-cam engine, developed in the late 1990s for BMW by Chrysler. ‘We’re confident that we have a very smooth, strong-performing engine with good economy. This is a very good engine,’ said Erich Sonntag, BMW’s project manager for the new engine. The new Mini will again be offered with a choice of three 1.6-litre engines, with the entry-level One and best-selling Cooper each getting a worthwhile boost in power. The One will produce 115bhp and 117lb ft of torque (up from 89 and 103), the Cooper 143bhp and 176lb ft of torque (up from 113 and 110), and the Cooper S 168bhp (the same as today’s offering). No torque figure is available yet for the S. The One’s 1.6-litre unit will be naturally aspirated, while both Cooper and Cooper S will get turbochargers. ... With a turbo replacing a supercharger in the S, the tuning potential will only be limited by concerns of reliability. Today’s Works makes 210bhp, but in future that should rise to as much as 230bhp. BMW technicians and Cooper Garages are already working on the project. With the launch still over two years away, possibly following a first showing at the 2007 Geneva Motor Show, prices are unconfirmed, but a One is likely to start at around £11,000, a low-power Cooper around £12,500, the high-power version £14,000 and the S £16,000. There’s still a long way to go until the Mini is replaced, but it’s already shaping up to be a major event in 2007.

Maserati is building a Mercedes SL rival, complete with folding metal roof. The Italian brand is replacing its Coupé/Spyder twins with two more distinct models each with different wheelbases: this drop-top two-seater is the shorter of the two. The Quattroporte saloon will form the basis of the new models. The Spyder will use the shortest version of the new platform, and the Coupé will slot between its drop-top sibling and the longer Quattroporte. The Spyder should be launched in mid-2006, with the Coupé a few months earlier, although they were due to arrive in early 2005. The original Italdesign-Giugiaro styling was dumped as too conservative; the switch to a new Pininfarina design knocked the project back by 18 months. The Spyder will be a strict two-seater with stowage space behind the seats, while the Coupé version should have a lot more rear legroom than the current model, with Maserati proclaiming the car to be a full four-seater instead of the current 2+2. Exact engine details are still scarce, although it will run a V8 larger than the Ferrari F430’s 4.3-litre unit, pumping out between 430-450bhp. The Quattroporte’s double-wishbone suspension with adaptive damping will be tweaked to give the car a more sporting slant.

certi mi sembrano dei disegni fatti con altri obiettivi e che "magicamente" hanno trovato un marchio peugeot per strada...

No, no mi riferivo a stev66 (che non ho quotato!) Comunque sono contento che ci sia almeno un altro che la pensa come me!

Non lo so. Comunque nell'articolo si parla di 28€: http://www.autobild.de/aktuell/neuheiten/artikel.php?artikel_id=7714 ho trovato anche questo! http://www3.mercedes-benz.com/motorsport/e/service/kalender_order.htm

approfondimenti sul v6 CDI http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cfm/newsid/2041216.002/mercedes/1.html

non lo so, a me pare che abbia un aspetto complessivamente diverso. Linee molto tese, tetto dritto... tutte cose che non mi pare ci siano nelle altre foto (anche quelle dove era camuffata)... L'andamento della fiancata "a girare" verso la parte posteriore, per esempio, non c'è per niente! Comunque staremo a vedere, in realtà il photoshop mi sembra bruttino a prescindere dalla somiglianza: ho visto cose fatte meglio! La 199 invece mi sembra promettente!

Scusami ho male interpretato, rimane il fatto che non abbiamo da opporre molto a questa serie 5 per ora... La serie 3 parte già con il 3.0 mi pare, bisogna vedere quando ci sarà la commercializzaranno in Italia Sull'argomento del topic: http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cfm/newsid/2041221.002/bmw/1.html

Riposto qui il link alla pagina della fase due del concorso: http://www.peugeot-concours-design.com/index_en.htm Molte le proposte interessanti, molte quelle fuori di testa completamente...

ma la 939 non è confrontabile come segmento alla serie 5... Purtroppo il discorso è: da una parte (AD OGGI) ci sono nuovi modelli e versioni, dall'altra forti aspettative... mettetela come vi pare, ma è diverso.

Scansioni di Autoplus da autoclic.info/autoforum

www.autobild.de http://www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen/artikel.php?artikel_id=7732

Eh te pareva!! La punto nlla foto di quattroruote mi piace molto e se sarà così la fiat ha fatto centro. Mi piace la nuova "moda" di alcuni forumisti di parlare di photoschop di ogni foto che vedono senza aver visto l'originale dal vivo; incredibile! Un saluto! Senti se vedi la foto di quella rossa, non ci vuole molto a capire che non è che ci hanno preso molto... comunque l'incavo nel photoshop somiglia a questo:

non ho capito perché un prototipo di una coupettina dovrebbe prefigurare la sostituta di una berlina ???

mi pare invece che l'incavo sulla fiancata sia dell'astra gtc...

a me pare in parte derivata dall'Idea...

ma dai fa schifo sta' cosa, ed è pure sbagliata completamente...

già postate però...

mi pare che sia uscita dai discorsi di molti... sarà un caso?