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@AlexMi @Kay195 Marchionne would retain his domeiat Ferrari and most likely would get FCA Board seat. What Tavares get? Anyway. Things between Elkann and Tavares are much worse and have fallen out much earlier than is publicly disclosed. Tavares must be silent because of his paycheck which he will receive. On the other hand Elkann is publicly communicating as is normal in business world. No harsh words.
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https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/12/10/stellantis-ceo-carlos-tavares-lost-control-of-the-automaker-sources-say.html
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"As Stellantis’s financial woes grew in the summertime, Tavares ratcheted up his pursuit of maximum efficiency. In the fall, he began holding weekly “Darwin” meetings with deputies that involved identifying extreme cost cuts that could be made across the automaker, according to people familiar with the meetings. Tavares had long compared today’s auto industry to a Darwinian fight in which only the fittest would survive. “Darwin no longer exists because we will still exist,” he said. “Honestly guys, what we really need to do is sell cars,” he said at the Michigan meeting this week. “That’s what we’re good at.” https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/stellantis-john-elkann-ceo-hunt-2c1ed8af
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From what I've heard Elkann wanted to remove Carlos from his position since early or mid 2023. So this was in the making for year and a half at least. Lets not forget that Exor doesn't have the same control over Stellantis as they had over FCA. Here they have much lower % of shares and voting rights. Peugeot family and France are here in the play. But now it seems that John is taking over the leadership and who knows maybe Exor would buy same shares and go after more voting rights.
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Stellantis considers Picat and Filosa for CEO, says source https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/stellantis-considers-picat-filosa-ceo-says-source-2024-12-02/
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Replacement for a 500X should be something bigger than 600, desirable on STLA Medium. Similar for Tipo, EMP2 or STLA Medium. All other is a hoax.
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I have a bad feeling that the new platform and technical basis in general will be anig step backwards. For example big solid C pillar on Stelvio is there because of torsional rigidity.
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12.3" unit would be an upgrade...
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Yes, but blue, green... In my opinion those on Tonale standout. In any case for both number of colours is very limited. Bit that's something which PSA brought in. One way of reducing production costs.
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For me this car is a missed opportunity. Even with CMP with few technical changes they were in position to make a much, much better product. But what bothers me are PSA exterior colours. At least they could be from ex FCA. I prefer those on Tonale.
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It's not just reputation. They simply aren't good. PSA engines. And we aren't taking just about 1.2 PureDreck. Don't forget all woes with Prince and now with 1.5 diesel both with timing chain and AdBlue system. They Punch transmission is all new and designed to be cheap and not sophisticated. As I said it's fine for entry level models with small engines but not for premium brands and for most C segment and D segment cars. Not to me Rio. That Punch for years only made transmissions under licence like ZF 8HP. They didn't have their own design.
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Here the fake DCT is one to blame, not the engine. But who knows, maybe in the long run both will be problematic. 😂
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Mah.... Engine lineup is just wrong and that 6 speed with PHEV... Aluminium 2.2 MJT with 160 and 210 BP would make a perfect sense, latter with Q4. Desirable transmission would be 8 speed Aisin. On the other hand petrol is fine, the one with 160 HP. But in addition to it would be nice to have 2.0 GME Miller with around 220 HP. And of course 2.0 with around 350 HP and Q4 as top of the line. And then interior with many choices if it's black. 😂
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Are there any plans for Sandero MCA with updated interior and 1.2 tCe?
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Correct. 1.6 HEV was planned for STLA Large but I wouldn't exclude it being used for Medium. HEV could be just in the name. It could be p2.5 MHEV. In the US MHEV brings a lot of negative connotations.
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@__P Correct. Very much like a Grandland.
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@__P The choice wasn't made because of number for cylinders. It was made because of supplier chain, because of installed production capacity, and above all because PSA went on cheap with Punch automated manual transmission which was ready for PSA engines. It would take time to made it suitable for GSE and/or GME.
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Yes, but 1.6 comes only as PHEV, not as MHEV. STLA Medium as 1.6 LHEV is overweight, around 1900 kg I think. And that's as P2 PHEV, P2P4 or P4 would be even heavier.
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New Stelvio is most likely around 4.85m in length Speaking about powertrains. 1.2 PureDreck? All other are expected to be blue whales. Very much overweight.
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Recon and Wagoneer S are both planned as BEV only. I'm not sure if they've made some changes.
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Guys... They have newly designed engines in GSE and GME. And what they did? Chose EB and EP engines over them on both sides of the pond to keep in the first place French engineering team and French supplier chain intact.
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@davos Shameful is to see completely wrong engine strategy and keeping PSA shite in production.
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And is coming into production more than 2 years later than initially planed.
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In my opinion we're underestimating influence of Peugeot family and French State on Stellantis and decisions they've made.
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