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Alfa Romeo Tonale PHEV 2022 - Prj. 965 (Spy a pag.351)
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I'm wondering when the decision to build Dodge next to Tonale has came up.🤔 10.25" can be fitted inside of Stelvio. Not sure about Giulia. -
PSA doesn't produce 8 speed Aisin. Here it has something with production. I can say as much. And I think that the transmission is 100% FCA.
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But some decisions represent their way of thinking and we are still long way of to a joint development. It's still very thick line between FCA and PSA led development. Think about this: Or even better this:
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They have EVT. But interesting part is 8 speed. FCA doesn't have 8 speed FWD transmission.
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PSA wants less variations in production. That's it.
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Idiotic moves by the ultimate cost cutter. Did I already say that?
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I think it's just a bad reporting which is usual from AN. For sure B segment SUV is not sellable and will not be on sale in US.
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Carlos the ultimate cost cutter Tavaresh is completely idiot if he thinks that this is formula for succes. If Sergio hot anything right that's idea of CAPEX growth. It was one of the most important things for survival. You can fight with excellence and not with cutting and useless savings.
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Same or similar things are happening in FCA US plants. Tavaresh pushed them all. So don't make big fuss out of this.
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Even a little bigger is still a C in US. For example CR-V or RAV4. Even our Tiguan Allspace is marketed as compact in US. Some engineering goals can define vehicle class, not just size. I don't know if Dodge will be bigger than Tonale. I even don't know Tonale's size. Is it bigger than Compass? One important thing to take for consideration. More and more Jeep dealerships in US will separate from Dodge and Chrysler. So Dodge and Chrysler will be in need of some entry level models. Currently Dodge has young demographics and can command higher average transaction price than Chrysler. So the choice was very simple. Not to mention what Tim Kuniskis thought about Dodge and Alfa. American and European performance. Of course execution must be different for higher segments but both are performance brands. Dodge is about acceleration, Alfa is about handling.
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Patriot is idiotic name for car which is not US bound.
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New generation Charger and Challenger are also in development. Two additional cars or better said SUVs are in so called limbo.
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You are ignoring the fact that the same pressure as on the European FCA factories was put on the American FCA factory. All by Mister overrated Carlos Tavaresh.
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Tonale project is related to a Dodge C segment SUV. Both development and production. In internal schemes this projects are labeled as D-SUV projects. I believe that some goals like NVH and handling are set closer to D segments levels. Compass is connected to different projects/cars.
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Just kill DS and Lancia with immediate effect and put all resources into Alfa and Maserati.
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Side is almost the same which is not strange because of the same platform and of course design language. Rear is the best side of the car. Front is strange and gives a feeling that front overhang is longer than it is although it's not short at all. Rear bumper is strange and similar to 2008. I don't know why are they doing it. Interior is always disaster for usability. Car with PRND buttons for transmission reminds me of city buses. LOL
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Some media outlets, well most of them, are saying that multilink will not be seen on EMP2 v3 hatchback models. So no P2P4 PHEV on them.
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Long nose. I don't like it.
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So which one would you kill. Wrangler or Ram 1500? It's impossible to made them on the same platform. P.S. Platform is not the same as architecture. Platform can be the same as family of architectures. For example Ram 1500 and new Jeep Wagoneer are not on the same architecture.
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FCA is already on Android OS while PSA planned to do so. https://newmobility.global/connected-car/groupe-psas-infotainment-systems-adopt-android-automotive-os-2023/ So in my opinion they will merge the efforts and use Unconnect 5 as the base for any future development. Don't forget that recently FCA opened new R&D center in India. https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.businesstoday.in/lite/story/fiat-chrysler-to-set-up-150-million-dollar-global-digital-hub-in-hyderabad-create-1000-new-jobs/1/425073.html
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Hmh... I don't think that platforms itself bring additional costs. Something or a lot of things bring additional cost. It know that mister Tavaresh thinks that American FCA factories are also not as lean as European PSA factories.
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No 341 PL7?
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