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French brands in China? Good joke mate. Politics can and will change overnight. European New Green Deal is utopian.

PSA was well known for extremely low CAPEX. Switching from EP and EB to GSE in Europe would mean (substantial) CAPEX spending. This is something which Tavaresh doesn't want to do.

Yes, Fastback is 376. Production start planned in the second half of 2022. Fastback compact was on the Small Wide platform but with a very long 2.7 m wheelbase.

https://www.lavoixdunord.fr/945181/article/2021-02-25/le-moteur-ep-de-prochaine-generation-ne-sera-pas-fabrique-chez-psa-douvrin-mais https://www.lavenirdelartois.fr/109817/article/2021-03-09/billy-berclaudouvrin-quel-avenir-pour-la-francaise-de-mecanique @iDrive

@Davialfa Absolutely! Not to mention that mister Tavaresh had failed with PSA at 2 out of 3 markets. Markets where PSA was strong in terms of sales. He basically killed PSA in China and almost did it in South America. Every market, every brand, needs different approach. Something which may work for Peugeot and in France may not work for Fiat and Italy and for sure will not work for Alfa Romeo.

iOS is at very low market share in Catholic Europe. Much higher share in Protestant Europe. 1.2 EB has some constant problems which are less apparent with newer versions of engine. Like any GDI engine without SMPI it has problems, actually a lot of problems, with LSPI (Low Speed Pre Ignition) which may lead to engine block crack. 1.3? In few years in Europe 1.3 should be thing of the past. 1.5 turbo is coming.

You have right. I completely agree with you. But hatters gonna hate. US is the extremely important market for both Alfa Romeo and Maserati. Who says otherwise has no idea what he is talking about.

In Marchionne era contracts had been put in the place for 3 Alfa Romeo modela yet Manley canceled, switched to other brand, or frozen each of these three. One of the three was an E-SUV in Giorgio Evo. BTW Grand Cherokee WL is on Giorgio Evo or if you prefer you can call it Giorgio Global. Contracts were for Phase 2 lightening. Usually plastic lately replacement materials. Giulia and Stelvio are using Phase 1.

Of course my dear troll. GM North America Q4 EBIT 8.7% FCA NAFTA Q4 EBIT 11.6%

Who said that it's based on the Compass? It's based on another, more modern, car. Dodge is not an entry level brand anymore. It's an American muscle.

He was there for a few years. Nothing extraordinary in terms of performance. His right hand was Larry Dominique. The very same guy who is the new Head of Alfa Romeo North America and who was responsible for Pug's return to US.

They must kill EB/PureDreck as soon as possible and replace them with GSE/FireFly. But as you've read mister Tavaresh said that small engines will be from PSA. Transmission will be Chinese developed fake DCT starting in late 2023. It's P2 MHEV. I presume that 1.5 Firefly with Getrag/Magna 7 speed DCT and built in electric motor is too expensive for French manager who is ashamed of his Portuguese heritage.

But on this @iDrivehas right. If they really want global platforms they would switch all to eMini, Small Wide and Giorgio Evo/Global. Global as equally good or suitable for South America, North America and Europe. But I smell too much French pride here in combination with low CAPEX spending which is in PSA's blood. They are well known as extremely low spender when it comes to factories. They look old and dirty, constant tool reuse or overuse.

Some of you think that the EMP2 is a good base for sporty C segment. I'm not sure about it. Why? EMP2 has 2 technical problems, or maybe even 3 for some. It's inefficient packaging which with a mulilink rear suspension results in a very poor rear knee and leg room (see 508 II). It's not federalized platform which means that it can't be sold in US. It doesn't offer mechanical AWD which is and additional feature important for US market. @iDrive Some people think that Peugeot in Brazil is just a wrong brand and they can sell EMP2 and CMP cars under Fiat and Jeep brand without any problem. I'm not sure about it. Actually I think that EMP2 and CMP would be a distaster for ex-FCA in Brazil. Maybe @Dallebucan share his opinion on this topic.

GSE is cheaper to produce? Who said that? He is unaware of Magna-BMW contract for transmission so how would he know something about FCA. Jokes aside. Pug North American project had faded in style. I mean, they didn't even start development for platform federalization. What a joke. Actually PSA is a joke outside of EU.

But this article says nothing, Anyway, during the first part of the Conference Call STLA share lost around 3.5%. I think that it says a lot.

What's the point of pasting link to and article which is inaccessible for public view?

PSA doesn't have mild hybrids at all and they will not have it before late 2023 unless they switch to FCA sourced technology before that date. Actually in terms of electrification PSA doesn't have anything which FCA already has. PSA was faster in implementing some technologies in Europe like BEV. For PHEV timing difference was much lesser. Not to mention that FCA could use EVT if they wanted.

EP/Prince engine doesn't fit on CMP platform. Only EP/PureDreck.

But they will give us 1.2 PureDreck with cracked engine blocks due to LSPI (Low Speed Pre Ignition) and they'll pair to the P2 MHEV tranmssion sourced from Chinese owned company which is wrongly called DCT although it has a single clutch. This transmission will be used from late 2023. Tramssnsion will be produced by PSA-Chinese Joint Venture. In the meanwhile FCA sill unveil all new 1.5 turbo GSE/FireFly which will be used on Small Wide cars and will be mated to a Getrag/Magna 7 speed DCT with a built in electric motor. The first car with this set up will start production later this year. So FCA will come out with P2 MHEV tech full 2 years before PSA. So how I wouldn't tell that mister Tavares is full of shit? He downplayed FCA's electrification efforts. His yesterday's Conference Call was all about PSA and all about Europe. For him FCA brings nothing to the table or at least he is trying to show it that way.

Italian car with French engine and Chinese gearbox? No, thanks! I'll look elsewhere.

PSA platforms are not federalised and God knows when they will be. CMP and EMP2 platforms are total disaster in South America, not suitable for those markets. So... Will they make global or continental platforms? Speaking about FCA platform/architecture optimization. Later this year Small MHEV architecture will debut. P2 MHEV. On this front FCA is 2 years in front of PSA. But for some reason mister Tavresh wants to push with fake DCT, Chinese DCT.

Still you don't understand development process, modern development process. Platform can not be old or new. Platform can be optimized for each use or non optimized. FCA has chosen platform optimization for each product or iteration. PSA don't do it, they do clones. You'll see platform optimization and many platform forks with Giorgio. New GranTurismo is one example but also next generation Quattroporte. Grand Cherokee WL is another fork.

Typical VW-fahrer BS. You know nothing about modern platform development. I've explained in one of my posts. Modular platform approach is considered obsolete. Now because of PSA ex-FCA will be the one which speed up old top hat approach development. PSA is dead outside of Europe. While he has made Europe extremely profitable mister Tavares was a total failure in South America in addition to China. Add to that non existence in North America. Thus Mike Manley has all powers for South and North America and ex-FCA COOs for these particular regions are COOs of Stellantis.