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Fiat -> FCA -> Stellantis - Filosofia su una holding multinazionale
Fleets? Different rules and taxation systems across the EU. Some still prefer diesels. And lets not forget on open roads and motorways diesel is still and will be the best choice. One digression about the new generation Puretech, the small one 1.2 EB. AFAIK Miller cycle engines should be better at constant loads but the new 1.2 is no better that the old one. Fuel economy in real life scenarios for open roads and motorways hasn't improved on previous generation non hybrid engine.
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Fiat -> FCA -> Stellantis - Filosofia su una holding multinazionale
@led zeppelin That's valid for Italy but not Europe wide. Anyway all I can see in the last 5 years is market share increase for VAG while at th same time STLA has fallen from almost 24% to mere 14% of marker share. Obviously something is deeply wrong with their strategy. Is it a pricing, products... I don't know although my personal opinion is that almost all is wrong. Platforms, engines, electrification strategy... Just to name a few but the list is substantial.
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Fiat -> FCA -> Stellantis - Filosofia su una holding multinazionale
Medium is a design failure. SUV only platform without a proper 4x4 and terrible packaging for a given wheelbase length. New generation of 1.6 EP and 1.2 EB? They say they're Miller but compression ratio is (too) low. And 1.2 EB Gen III still has the same fuel economy issues as the previous generation. This is something which would be solved by a proper Miller.
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Fiat -> FCA -> Stellantis - Filosofia su una holding multinazionale
Guys... Do you really want 1.6 PSA HEV with EVT? I'm not so sure that Europeans are on live with scooter like effect. Yes, Toyota offers if in Europe but it's Toyota. Two other big players at HEV market in Europe are Renault Group and Hyundai Group and none of them is offering EVT for HEV. Speaking about 1.2 TCe with LPG it has dual injection. The engine has both direct injection and multipoint injection. Problems with 2.2 Multijet and GSE? I'm unaware of anything terribly wrong. Multijet has the same problem as any other Multijet.
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Fiat -> FCA -> Stellantis - Filosofia su una holding multinazionale
I wouldn't agree. 1.5, actually 1.46, from ex FCA is a very compact engine and a true Miller cycle unlike 1.2 and 1.6 from ex PSA although they're saying they're Miller but compression ratio just isn't there. And to some extent or covers domain of both 1.2 and 1.6 from PSA. And they also can make less powerful versions. Just look at the newest 1.5 TSI which starts at just 115 HP from an internal combustion engine. 2.0 GME of done properly and a true Miller cycle can take over from more powerful 1.6 versions.
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Lancia Gamma - D-UV 2026 - Prj. L74/L4U (Spy)
Engine list inadequate but it's what it is. No diesel, no 4 cylinder petrol engine which aren't small 1.2 and which aren't PSA sourced. Sometimes it's good to look what Germans are doing.
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Fiat Fastback 2026 - Prj. F2X (Spy)
Width of the CMP and bothers is at -B segment level. I'm talking about width at the shoulder level.
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