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IMO. Not a good article. Actually a lot of wrong assumptions. First of all. Nothing about TT V6. And once when GME T6 hits the market it may have E.Booster and in that case it's like that we are talking about P2 48V MHEV. In that case it will not have a BSG/e.torque. Also we could see a GME N6 with capacity higher than 3 liters. They may be right for a base engine. FCA is working on a 7 liter HEMI with at least 520 ponies.
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Look at Ram 1500... For MHEV in Europe it seems that FCA will put a lot of faith into P2 MHEV. I don't know for any production P2 MHEV except Mercedes 3 liter Inline 6. But at the end official CO2 is all that matters. And I'm sure that some car makers will try to cheat the system or they will kill engine performance like VAG. VAG with Euro 6d TEMP engines has an awful recovery times.
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PHEV should be Renegade and Compass together with all 3 Alfa Romeo models. BEV is of-course Fiat 500. Question is number of sales. 5, 10 or 20% of a total line-up. FCA believes that at the end of 2022 they will have 20% PHEV+BEV in a total sales. P1P4 PHEV system for FWD based cars is ready. It's now into industrialisation phase. They done tests in last couple of years. We are speaking about similar system as on BMW 225xe but this system in addition to a P4 electric motor has a BSG system as on mild hybrids. For P1P2 PHEV responsible is North American R&D center so I don't know much about it except that it will debut on Wrangler in early 2020. It should be developed with ZF but it will also offer a 4WD/AWD. MHEV can help a lot. It can help especially when old engine is a 1.2 FIRE. I think that a GSE N3 with a 12 V BSG mild hybrid system will help a lot with a CO2 reduction. It will bring FCA few steps closer to reach an average CO2 fleet emissions. And this project is well underway. Basically this hit industrialisation phase. I don't know much about future P2 48V MHEV. It's still a long way from a production phase. But in any case FCA has a calculation that at the end of 2022 40% of its fleet will be a MHEV. That's a bold statement and certainly necessary to reach CO2 target. Actually I don't know any European manufacturer except BMW which doesn't put a faith int MHEV. Strange... Speaking about FCA's expertise for hybrids. It's not worse than BMW's. Actually it's the opposite. I call it a double standards. Nothing strange for this forum. #german_supremacy PHEV is not a cheap technology. Car makers must tempt people to buy it at a higher price. They are doing it with a higher performance. IMO it's a good policy. Customers are usually willing to pay more for a higher performance.
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@Beckervdo Ford has their own 8 speed auto. I think that actually there are 3 different Ford 8 speed automatics. Strange thing is that they had abandoned plans to share a 9 speed with GM.
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You can disagree but I'm expecting that at the end of 2020 Alfa+Fiat+Jeep will offer at least 5 PHEV Made in Italy plus 1 BEV. Maybe I'm way to optimistic. I'm not counting Maserati because it's counted separetely. Very soon FCA will replace old 1.2 8v FIRE with a 1.0 N3 GSE with 12V BSG mild hybrid system. Most likely it will help a lot with fleet CO2. It will be offered in both 500 and Panda. Market launch of this engine will be in early 2020. In 2021 FCA will offer P2 48V MHEV. I konw that you are not a fan of mild hybrids but this solution will offer a substantial CO2 reduction in comparison with a turbocharged engines without that system. I presume that this engines will come with e-turbo and in that case if they are aimed at CO2 reduction they will have high compression ratio, higher than current GSE turbo. In this equation IMO the biggest question is how will customers welcome this new technologies and who will opt to purchase a car with it. How to persuade customer to buy a PHEV or MHEV car. In case of MHEV I expect that some cars will some engines will come exclusively with such an option.
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Ecotassa, «favorite solo automobili straniere». Penalizzati 14 modelli Fca L’allarme della Fim Cisl: il provvedimento del governo rischia di distruggere l’industria italiana dell’auto e migliaia di posti di lavoro. Favorite 28 vetture estere, penalizzati 14 modelli di Fca tra cui la 500X e la Renegade 2000 diesel. Eccoli tutti https://www.corriere.it/economia/19_gennaio_16/ecotassa-favorite-solo-automobili-straniere-penalizzati-14-modelli-fca-cb425f38-199c-11e9-8af3-37b4f370f434.shtml?fbclid=IwAR0Pw7KA1SBk_SY7x0tJw_tbgKXj8_hV2-p7Uqz7YSogRsYGz9bv9ppKqz8&refresh_ce-cp
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This is not an all new model. It's just heavy revision of the current one. New model is planned to 2020 with a shift of production from Mexico to Detroit. Not a good news about start of sales. https://jalopnik.com/the-government-shutdown-could-delay-the-launch-of-the-n-1831746356 1st Gear: FCA CEO Says Government Shutdown Could Put Trucks on Pause Bloomberg reports that the partial federal shutdown has "idled the EPA" and its Office of Transportation and Air Quality. The office tests vehicles and confirms that they comply with federal emissions regulations, which they have to do before automakers can sell them. Launching delays are looming. With trucks , you know how to out in torque numbers , who knows how to out with 1,001 lb-ft during the delay.
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And there is a eco subsidize. No FCA vehicle will receive it. And for example at the end of 2020 FCA could produce 2 BEV and 6 PHEV vehicles which could receive such a subsidize. Eve more at the end of 2021. In my opinion it would be a convenient form Italian Government to postpone eco tax and eco subsidize until FCA has cars which can receive a subsidize. Also in my opinion. This can mean end of FCA's 48V P2 MHEV plans for GSE which was slated for 2021. Such a cars would not receive a subsidize. Although such a cars would help with average fleet CO2 emission. But who would buy it? FCA could switch to a even more BEV and PHEV cars. But for example if new or next Government yet again changes eco tax FCA could be in deep shit. Any such a tax or subsidize must be a long term one.
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It's interesting how a UConnect is a very well regarded in US as the best of the of the best infotainment systems while in Europe not a single word about it. For example 8.4" UConnect as in Wrangler, Renegade, Compass, Cherokee... In its latest iteration has a very good voice controls and is fast and is intuitive for use. That unit is produced by Panasonic. Previous less advanced unit was made by Harman. And lets not forget 12" UConnect 4 which is a state of the art. I would like to see it on more FCA products and not just on Ram. But then... Alfa is using a completely different infotainment system. A system which will see a lot of updated this year.
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China? I haven't seen much investment from FCA in China. At least we can agree that China is yet unexploited area by FCA. On the other hand EU is a market where regulations are changing to fast and where FCA doesn't have any input on European Commision, European Parliament or Italian Government decision. IMO that can't be said for French and German car makers. German car makers like BMW were well known for financing Merkel's campaign. No doubt that Merkel has returned a favor. On top of that add that French, Swede or German people are much more patriotic when it comes to a car purchase and you got the current situation. Maybe @4200blu can give us Volvo sales in Sweden together with % of total market share and maybe comparison of Volvo XC60 sales with direct competitors. For employment lets don't forget that FCA + CNHI + Ferrari have more workers in Italy compared to a pre Marchionne era. Any new worker would just be added on top of that.
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Actually all models are affected. Why? There is no subsidies on any of them. I found this move from Italian Government as a highly incompetent. Moves like this are usually made by countries without car industry like the Netherlands, Denmark or Norway. No way that Sweden, France or Germany will pull such a move. And not only that. Each of mentioned governments would consult with car makers before of any such a decision.
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I waited a lot for a proper response. But I'm hoping that you realize that in Europe for FCA there is no much hope for higher volume and margins. In a best case they can reach 6-7% margin. Also European market is a highly complicated ones and Italians are the nations which are the least patriotic when it comes to a car choice. For example just imagine a market where every Alfa Romeo model can outgun combined sales of German trio 2:1. You must admit that with a Italian state of mind it's impossible. Right? Back in early 2010's FCA had 20% profit margin in South America. Actually FCA is strong only in Brazil and Argentina. FCA is on the way to hit 10% margin in the very near future. They are very confident about that. They will also shift to a more expensive products, Also it's very likely that GM will pull out from there markets. At least it can be concluded from their Investor Event. https://investor.gm.com/events/event-details/general-motors-host-investor-event-0 In that case FCA has a free hands to grew even larger in Brazil and Argentina and to stop price war which was impeded by a GM.
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