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Alfa Romeo Tonale PHEV 2022 - Prj. 965 (Spy a pag.351)
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There is a also a PHEV version if they ever decide to do P2P4 performance PHEV. -
Alfa Romeo Tonale PHEV 2022 - Prj. 965 (Spy a pag.351)
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Alfa Romeo Tonale PHEV 2022 - Prj. 965 (Spy a pag.351)
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More to come in the future? Someone told me that Hornet should have at the last 300 ponies from 2.0 turbo. -
I'm unaware of any big plans for STLA Medium for US brands. US was and should be all about Gio... ehm STLA Large and of course STLA Frame.
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1.6 diesel will have more than 137 g/km. Keep that in mind. But in general premium cars are setup for reactivity, not for fuel saving i.e. lesser CO2 emission.
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Alfa Romeo Tonale PHEV 2022 - Prj. 965 (Spy a pag.351)
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Alfa Romeo Tonale 1.5 turbo P2 MHEV, 7 speed DCT 130 HP 137 g/km ? 160 HP 137 g/km ? Mercedes GLA 1.3 turbo, 7 speed DCT 136 HP 152 g/km 163 HP 152 g/km Audi Q3 1.5 turbo BSG MHEV, 7 speed DCT 150 HP 145-162 g/km BMW X1 1.5 turbo, 7 speed DCT 140 HP 140-157 g/km Volvo XC40 1.5 turbo, 8 speed automatic 129 HP 162-179 g/km 163 HP 162-179 g/km Jaguar E-Pace 1.5 turbo BSG MHEV, 8 speed automatic 160 HP 180-189 g/km -
Alfa Romeo Tonale PHEV 2022 - Prj. 965 (Spy a pag.351)
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@Franky... You have right. It seems that most people here don't understand advantage of a P2 hybrid system. Some will be pleasantly surprised. My only disappointment is with power level. The first version which was planned was with 190 HP. Now there is no word of it. -
Yes, inspired by QP. But I also see Grand Cherokee WL there. I prefer QP interior design over Ghible and Levante.
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It seems that Harman units in FCA products had some very bad review and FCA did their best to improve the situation. So they switched from Harman to McIntosh Group. This means that Jeep is now using McIntosh branded sound systems with Maserati using Sonus Faber.
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Still Stlvio petrol or diesel weighs from 150 to 250 kg less than direct competitors. Here we talk about car which has size of Porsche Cayenne with weight of Audi Q5.
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Interesting to see... Ex FCA engineering supremacy. Car which has E segment car size with D segment weight, fuel consumption and performance.
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Even for Alfa Romeo E-segment SUV there is a talk about 3 row of seating.
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Jeep Grand Wagoneer GME T6 SO GME T6 HO GME T6 PHEV
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Alfa Romeo Tonale PHEV 2022 - Prj. 965 (Spy a pag.351)
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Do you know anything about power levels? Interesting that at the time first version to go on the market was planned to have 190 HP. Today there is no word about it. Not to mention that this engine is ready to go well above 200 HP. But to go over 200 HP IMO it should have more than 320 Nm. AFAIK Getrag DCT is limited to 320 Nm. Of course in the past Getrag had plans to offer DCT suitable for engines with more torque.
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Mah, only Aprica sounds good to me.
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October 11, 2021 03:32 PM Stellantis will turn Turin factory into hub for EVs, Maserati cars Mirafiori plant will be center for electrification MILAN -- Stellantis plans to retool its factory in Turin, Italy, into an electric-vehicle hub, transferring production of two Maserati models to the Mirafiori plant. The move is intended to increase efficiency and safeguard jobs as the automaker shifts to selling more electric vehicles. Stellantis will assign Mirafiori a new electrified platform to build Maserati sedans between 2022 and 2024, making the factory, where the automaker already produces the Fiat New 500 battery-electric minicar, the group's center for electrification in Italy. The Mirafiori factory is the historic center of Fiat, employing some 50,000 workers in its heyday in the 1970s when it used to produce more than 600,000 cars a year. The plant currently builds the Maserati Levante SUV as well as the Fiat New 500. Italian newspaper La Repubblica on Saturday reported that Stellantis could increase production of the combustion-engine Fiat 500 at Mirafiori by moving some volumes there from Tychy, Poland. At Mirafiori, Stellantis will have one manufacturing process to make combustion engines, hybrids, and electric powertrains. Maserati EV platform Stellantis, which was formed from the merger of Fiat Chrysler Automobiles and PSA Group earlier this year, will build the Maserati Ghibli and Quattroporte sedans at Mirafiori, shifting from the nearby site of Grugliasco. One of the first actions will be to create a new electrified platform specific for Maserati, Stellantis said. "Stellantis is working with determination and alacrity to anticipate and prepare for the energy transition of all its Italian industrial sites," the company said in a statement Monday. The goal is to improve performance at the plants "to give this country a strategic role among the group’s main domestic European markets," Stellantis said. Future production of the New 500 is also confirmed in Turin, the automaker said, after presenting its plan in Rome to the industry and labor ministers and unions. No job losses All 1,100 workers and functions in Grugliasco will move to Mirafiori by 2024 with no overall impact on jobs in the area, Stellantis said without giving details about what happens to the Grugliasco site after that date. Assembly operations will move immediately. Grugliasco is 4 km (2.5 miles) from Mirafiori. Its workers have often moved between the two sites based on production needs. The decision marks the end of full car manufacturing at the Grugliasco plant less than a decade after it started production of Maserati cars. Stellantis said it will allocate more electrification-related activities to Mirafiori. Italy overhaul Stellantis' production in Italy has been under scrutiny for costing more than elsewhere in Europe. Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares told Italian unions in February that production costs at Fiat's factories in Italy were up to four times more than at PSA's plants in France or Spain for a similar model, mainly because of lower-than-expected sales rather than high labor costs. In June, the automaker decided to reorganize output at the Melfi plant in southern Italy, its largest facility in the country, on a single enhanced line that will merge two existing ones with unchanged capacity. It will build four medium-segment electric vehicles, for different brands, starting in 2024. The company said in July it would build one of its three European battery factories in Italy, at the Termoli site, 300 km east of Rome. The plant currently makes internal combustion engines. Italy's Industry Minister Giancarlo Giorgetti said in a statement that there was an ongoing "huge effort" to support the Termoli gigafactory initiative with public funds. Italy's government has sought assurances from Stellantis that Italy will remain one of the main countries where it builds cars as the EV shift jeopardizes thousands of manufacturing jobs. Stellantis last month finalized plans for Daimler to join its European battery venture. https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/stellantis-will-turn-turin-factory-hub-evs-maserati-cars
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Chrysler as Chrysler LLC, FCA US. They produce some of ZF 8HP transmissions called 845RE and 850RE. They are not used in Alfa Romeo and Maserati products which have ZF sourced transmissions like ZF 8HP50. Even FCA US products are using ZF sourced transmissions for Hemi engines.
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Alfa or Maserati never used Chrysler built ZF 8HP.
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Alfa Romeo Tonale PHEV 2022 - Prj. 965 (Spy a pag.351)
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Stellantis Announces $229 Million Investment in Kokomo, Indiana, Operations to Accelerate Electrification Plans Announcement is one piece of a long-term strategy and electrification plan shared during the company’s EV Day Investment will retool three Kokomo plants to produce electrified, next-generation, eight-speed transmissions; 662 jobs retained “Multi-tool” of transmissions can be paired with internal combustion, mild hybrid or plug-in hybrid propulsion systems New transmission will deliver improved fuel economy, provide pure-electric range and help vehicles meet future emission regulations Electrified transmission diversifies product portfolio of Kokomo-area plants Leverages core competencies and skill sets of local workforce October 7, 2021 , KOKOMO, Indiana - Stellantis today announced it would invest a total of $229 million in three of its Kokomo, Indiana, plants to help the company reach its goal of achieving 40% low-emission vehicle sales in the U.S. by 2030. This announcement, which will retain 662 jobs, comes three months after the company laid out its long-term electrification strategy, where it committed to investing $35 billion through 2025 in electrification and software. Stellantis Head of Powertrain Operations Brad Clark made the announcement during an event at the Kokomo Transmission Plant attended by Indiana Governor Eric J. Holcomb, Kokomo Mayor Tyler Moore and UAW Region 2B Director Wayne Blanchard, along with other elected officials and community leaders. The investment will support retooling of the Kokomo Transmission (KTP), Kokomo Casting and Indiana Transmission plants to produce the fourth-generation eight-speed transmission. This new transmission will have the flexibility to be paired with internal combustion engines, as well as mild hybrid and plug-in hybrid propulsion systems, for vehicles across the Jeep®, Ram, Chrysler and Dodge brands. It will deliver improved fuel economy, provide pure-electric range and help vehicles meet future emission regulations. “This investment and this transmission represent an important stepping stone in getting us to 2030 and further expanding our battery electric offerings,” said Clark. “This new eight-speed is the ‘multi-tool’ of transmissions. It is a versatile transmission that can be adapted for a variety of applications, allowing us the flexibility to adjust our production as consumer demand for electrified vehicles grows over the next decade. It also offers consumers the opportunity to get familiar with this technology and explore all of the benefits that can come from electrification.” The new, fourth-generation, eight-speed transmission will capitalize on a number of common parts within the different versions – transmission gear train/clutch, mechatronics, mechanical pump and E-pump motor. It also will have the flexibility for unique parts to adapt to the various electrification options. These parts include the eMotor, torque converter and power electronics. Adding electrified transmission assembly also diversifies the product portfolio of the Kokomo operations. In March 2020, Stellantis announced it would invest $400 million to convert Indiana Transmission Plant II to the Kokomo Engine Plant to produce the GMET4 engine, the company’s 2.0-liter Global Medium Engine inline four-cylinder turbo. Production is expected to launch later this year. This investment also leverages the core manufacturing competencies of the Kokomo operations and the local workforce in the areas of casting, machining and assembly, all of which will be needed as the market transitions to an electrified future. “As our industry continues to change, our focus must continue to be on our most valuable asset – our people,” said Clark. “This transmission program will bring new opportunities for our current workforce, as well as the manufacturing workforce of the future.” The second-generation eight-speed transmission has been a workhorse of the company’s powertrains since production began in 2012. KTP celebrated the 5 millionth eight-speed transmission built on Sept. 30. It is the current transmission option on the Jeep Wrangler, Gladiator and Grand Cherokee; Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer; Ram 1500; Dodge Charger, Challenger, Durango; and Chrysler 300 models. https://media.stellantisnorthamerica.com/newsrelease.do?id=23188&mid=1
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I would not exclude further plan changes.
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