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I have a feeling that Ferrari is using LPDC for F154 engine block. Actually based on some videos it's quite likely. Or maybe they are using LPDC for something else?
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Mexico to EU should be with no tarrif and it's the same vice versa. From US to EU it's 10% tarrif on cars. It's 2.5% in the opposite direction. Mercosur to Mexico and vice versa it should be no tarrif on cars. For car parts different tarrif could be applied.
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IMO, highly unlikely. Aluminium and 77 mm bore spacing. Hmh... But next to 1.5 Giulia it was mark "cancelled" in the past.
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According to market trends, just IMO, using Giorgio for C segment and saving on interior or similar is totally wrong. Car in compact segment must be roomy and confy and have all bells and whistles. The problem is. Cars in a C segment now offers options and habitability on Giulia and Stelvio level. The only difference is no V6 engines, slightly shorter in length and simpler suspension. But they have same interior room, powerful 2.0 gasoline and diesel engines, 10" infotainment screen, and Full LED.
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Interesting... But have you read that FCA in on court with US Maserati dealers. The reason are electric Maseratis. FCA has desire to sell them directly to clients and not through dealers. It seems that Marchionne is very seriously gunning at Tesla.
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And for other FCA brands?
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FCA is capacity constrained in whole North America, not just in the USA. Maybe there will be some empty building after Big Shuffle is done but who knows. Certainly pattern is known. Sergio killed Dodge Fart and C200. FCA will introduce additional capacity for new RAM 1500 and new Jeep Wrangler. They will introduce completely new vehicles in the line-up in Jeep Grand Wagoneer WS ( that's the one where GME T6 will debut) and Jeep pick-up JT. All of this Made in the USA. All above models have high margin and high transaction price. So FCA will have huge advantage with tax reform brought in by Trump. Company tax is going down from 35% to 21%. So I don't see Alfa models produced in North America. There is no capacity and FCA will certainly not add new capacity or better said build new plant. And in Italy they have a lot of empty factories. I mentioned Grand Cherokee because plan is for WL on Giorgio. And in Italy will be Giorgio capacity. Currently WK2 is capacity constrained. Question is how much capacity they can add with next generation if any. And for FCA whole process of stopping production of WK2 and retooling Jefferson North Assembly Plant for WL may took to long. I'm not sure which engine will use Alfa big SUV. But they planned 6 cylinder gasoline with around 400 HP. And FCA will then have two different modern 6 cylinder engines available. So race is open. GME T6 or V6 90°? We have seen what Mercedes did with their new Inline 6 engine. I'm not expecting much less from FCA if they will offer Inline 6 for Alfa and/or Maserati in the future. Process of hybridization is unstoppable and in the future Inline 6 could offer more efficient packaging compared to V6 engines.
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I think you are way to optimistic. But, IMO, development of Alfa E segment SUV is directly related to next generation Jeep Grand Cherokee WL. And Jeep WL will come out in 2019 calendar year at the earliest. IMO it's more likely 2020. And as I said earlier in some other threads they plan to offer new GME T6 at the start of WL sales. I don't know if there will Alfa/Italian version of GME T6. Alfa's V6 90° is very advanced and new and it's engine block is produced in LPDC (low pressure die cast). It's certainly suitable for higher production numbers. Certainly in some markets like in North America offering a 2.0 trubo with 350 or more HP is a drawback. For them 6 cylinder turbo engine is must. Although I think that even GME T6 with MultiAir, single twin scroll turbo, could be capable for around 400 HP and maybe for 550 or 600 Nm of peak torque. And Inline 6 could be a silky smooth which is desirable characteristic for American customers. But this story of Grand Cherokee on Giorgio platform is very interesting to me. Why? Current generation of Grand Cherokee is capacity constrained. @4200blu once said that for him it would be logical to produce Alfa E segment SUV in North America. I didn't agree. One reason is exactly capacity limit for Grand Cherokee in the USA. Actually I'm wondering if next Grand Cherokee could be produced in Italy alongside Alfa SUV. For example for markets of Europe, Canada and Mercosur. We know that starting in 2021 there will be no tarrif on cars beetwen Canada and EU. And also EU and Mercosur are close of signing FTA.
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We'll see. But... As Sergio said. MHEV will replace small diesels. And we already know that there will not be 1.3 MJT Euro 6d. But we could expect 1.6 MJT Euro 6d. And for me it sound logical to completely remove 2.0 diesel from the range and replace them with 2.2 unit. But who knows. I didn't say that there will be Renegade Trackhawk. I just said that any such a development would most likely be connected to Abarth. Even 500X facelift and Renegade facelift are tightly connected. PHEV? Today take rate is to small. For example they can act as Germans. Just make PHEV model even if its outdated for today's standards. AFAIK Pacifica PHEV is superior to most BMW's PHEV models. But Germans will always hide behind German engineering moniker. I will say something which some of you will not like. The biggest enemy of FCA in Europe are Italian people.
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If Alfa is at the lower Jag level than we would drive Alfa Ghibli and Alfa Compass for quite some time. But maybe substance is today irrelevant in automotive sectors. All is about marketing.
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Renagde SRT? Maybe Renagade Trackwhawk. But that would also very likely be advent of Abarth 500X. Full LED GSE T3 GSE T4 mild hybrid Euro 6d diesel
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I'm still wondering if Portofino is on a modular platform or not. One interesting thing. Father of Giorgio platform left Alfa and rejoined Ferrari. French engineer Phillipe Krief is: Direttore tecnico - Head of R&D. Ferrari. giugno 2016 – Presente (1 anno 6 mesi) I believe that E segment Alfa models will have two 6 cylinder engines in the line-up. I'm also sure it will not use 350 HP 4 cylinder engine. Aluminum is past tense. We will see more and more plastic composites. And with the time it will be cheaper compared to metal.
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You completely misunderstood my message. It was about some German 3rd party or car magazine drivers which broke Nurburgring records with some Mercedes cars.
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Based on lap times someone would think that Germans are sending special cars with special tires to some German media which are 3rd party reviewers and then they broke Nurburgring records. Or shorter. Germans are top class cheaters.
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Toro is a pickup and BOF or unibody design is a very important there. Crossover of similar dimensions would most likely have better torsional rigidity. But IMO that huge 2.99, wheelbase is unnecessary for Small Wide based 7 seat crossover. Maybe even with around 2.75 they could do fine. I still have not seen CUSW car which is not V6 capable. Apparently even Dodge Dart was V6 capable. And I don't see desire from FCA to make it Inline4 only although I would welcome such a solution. What's common in cars with modular transverse engine platforms? Which dimension? And if they are designed with Inline 4 in mind than styling is the biggest variable which changes front overhang dimensions.
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Toro is a C segment? LOL. I don't how you can even define a segment for such a car, not to mention this modular world. Toro is not a BOF design and thus box is just a minus. It would be easier to make a crossover of such a dimensions. For front overhang. It's both platform and style related. CUSW has longer front overhang compared to Small Wide. One is designed for V6, one is not. AFAIK Grande Punto and Tipo have similar front overhang length. On Punto Evo it's slightly longer. 147, 159... All had disastrously long nose. I just hate that.
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Fiat Toro, 2.99m
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Let's speak in this way. Which 7 seat crossover/SUV models we have in the EU? How long are they? How wide are they? Are they designed/engineered with V6 in mind like CUSW is? Keep in mind that C200 was 4.9 meters long with relatively short wheelbase. This Jeep will be around 4.85 meters long. I mean. Both are to big for Europe. Their packaging is ineficent. Toro is a unibody. It's not a BOF. Big opening just penalises it.
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Oh, no! 350 HP from 2.0 with e turbo and 48 V. I never heard about it.
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AFAIK FWD is or was considered for compact Alfa models. But CUSW was never under consideration.
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Actually. It slightly reminds of this because it's very rectangular compared to current Jeep models: But it will keep some Jeep interior design cues. It will unmistakable be a Jeep. Some parts are similar executed as on Stelvio: I marked it with red. Similar triangles as on Stelvio. They will be in some trim levels wrapped in leather as in Stelvio. And upper part of IP will be protruded towards passenger as in Stelvio. I know. It's difficult to visualize something you haven't seen. Most likely you have a right. IMO, they are in search of partner for Giorgio based cars in China. Most likely they will still import Grand Cherokee in China. But currently Grand Cherokee has not desirable 2.0 turbo in the line-up. This Grand Commander will have it. Chinese don't care about driving dynamics, about off-road capability. They want big interior and luxurious feeling. For USA and EU? IMO, for EU CUSW is certainly not an appropriate platform. IMO, Small Wide is better for us.
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It will replace Grand Cherokee in China. Very nice interior with nice materials. I have seen central console. I must say they are heading in good direction with interior styling. Much nicer compared to current Jeep models. I also believe there will be 5 seat version. Chinese people just love enormous knee space at the back seats. They have chauffeurs. Dodge is heading in different direction. With Chrysler or Fiat they could not ask high price as with Jeep.
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And I must say that interior is a evolution of current Jeep interior styling but they changed or updated it in a good way. IMO, most of you will be positively surprised. To me it looks better than Cherokee or Compass. Because I have seen it I must wonder why they didn't change Cherokee's interior.
