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    https://br.motor1.com/reviews/145824/primeiras-impressoes-fiat-argo-aceleramos-as-versoes-13-13-gsr-e-18/
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    http://www.fcapress.com.br/fichatecnica/pdf/328/24150.pdf http://www.fcapress.com.br/fichatecnica/pdf/328/24151.pdf http://www.fcapress.com.br/fichatecnica/pdf/328/24155.pdf
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    Official presentation at 01:00: http://argo.fiat.com.br/?
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    http://www.lepoint.fr/automobile/innovations/peugeot-308-nouveau-visage-nouveau-moteur-18-05-2017-2128218_652.php
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    Jeep Compass 2017

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    I would not agree. It's simple. With impeding Euro6d which will introduce RDE (real driving emissions) you can not made diesel without SCR. Higher engine capacity will not longer be a way to easier pass of test. So I believe we will have only two diesels. New aluminium 1.6 with SCR and 2.2 with SCR. The usage of 2.2 will allow to avoid bi-turbo solution for higher power levels. It's always good guidance to look after the competition. For example PSA. They will have 1.5 HDI with SCR in the future. Power levels from 75 all the way to 130 HP. That 130 HP version will even be on DS 7 Crossback. To be precise. It's a Chrysler 948 TE. It's not identical to ZF 9HP48. Some parts are not interchangeable. We'll see. In the future naturally aspirated 2.0 GME will substitute 2.4 TS. 2.0 GME turbo for Compass is not sure thing before the facelift. They do not want to cannibalize Cherokee sales.
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    Jeep Compass 2017

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    Current diesel engines have around two years of life remaining at maximum. FCA obviously wants to prolong their life as much as possible. I would not exclude 2.2 in the future even for 150 HP version. It will have SCR.
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    SCR? 180->190 HP, 210-> 220 HP?
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    Is this a new color ? I heard they improved seats. A lot...
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    They got 10 cm in length with new front bumper?
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    This was a plan in 2014: https://www.fcagroup.com/en-US/investor_relations/investors/Presentations/Documents/APAC_Region.pdf X6H, X6S, and ??? Jeep 526.
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    IMO, the most logical solution is Alfa compact models in Pomigliano if they are FWD/SUSW based. They can move Panda to Poland earlier. They can even move there this version of Panda if they want and if they need free space. I'm not sure about Melfi for this model. Not if both hatchback and crossover Alfa are based on SUSW. Also this opens door for Italian production of Jeep Compass. And also IMO a B segment Alfa crossover, a rival for Audi Q2. Something which is impossible with Giorgio. But also this will then put end of stories of Mirafiori Alfa Romeo models. This will make available space in Cassino for both E segment Alfa Romeo models.
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    Pomigliano?
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    SUSW is no a heavyweight platform, far from that. Fiat 500X and Audi Q2 with 2.0 diesels have similar weight and that's still some 200 kg less compared to Stelvio 2.2 diesel. They can even bring weight more down on SUWS without even touching platform itself. Aluminium 2.2 diesel will save some 30 kg compared to 2.0. Additional savings can be done with aluminium doors and tailgate. 500X and Renegade are already coming with aluminium hood. All of suddenly you are saving some 100 kg without even touching a platform.
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    AFAIK if they go to Pomigliano then SUSW will have lower industrialization cost compared to Giorgio. Simple as that. And also AFAIK next year FCA will offer electric Renegade in China. That's part of new regulation which require zero emission vehicle there.
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    If this is on SUSW there can always be a B segment crossover from Alfa. A model which can take on Audi Q2. This one will IMO have a base price of around 30 000 euros in Italy. Don't forget that German Fiat called VW have a Tiguan with base price of 28 000 euros in Italy.
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    It's interesting. But in the US BMW is offering X1, same as Mercedes with GLA or Audi with Q3. Sales are maybe not high but they can go up to 2000+ per month there. IMO, this will allow some other possibilities. If this is on SUSW this could allow some other Euro-centric models. For example smaller B-SUV. Also C-hatchback or C-wagon. For US market C-sedan could be interesting. And all can be produced at the same production line. And what' interesting. Costs of Pomigliano conversion to SUSW will be by far much lower than going Giorgio route.
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    Torsional rigidity. Important for both handling and comfort. Do you think that Giulia have both better handling and comfort compared to Series 3 just by the Holy Spirit? Usually you choose between handling and comfort.
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    X1 can be found in America but not Series 1 because they do not like hatcbacks. Similar story is in China where they have special Series 1 sedan. So basically. Yes, this will be offered in America and China. They need volume. Eventualy this could very likely be a first Alfa Romeo model made in China. Compass and Renegade are already there so that would not be problem.
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    I thought for a second OK this makes sense. And then after a few seconds... Oh sh** this Alfa Compass will be flushed down the toilet in America because of ZF 9HP. Actually I heard about new equipment for Pomigliano which is identical with something in Melfi. And I doubt it's for Panda.
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    SUSW or CUSW? IMO, FCA will need a lot of work on each of them to work for where are they aiming with Alfa. I'm not against FWD cars if they are properly executed. IMO, CUSW could be a good starting point. They will need more advanced front suspension. Double wishbone are not necessary, actually they are drawback for a FWD car with transverse engine. McPherson could be even more upgraded compared to current Giulietta. For the back multilink FCA already have more advanced solution compared to Giulietta. It's a fully isolated 4-link multilink as on Chrysler 200. The problem is usage with hatchback or what you call berlina 2 volumi. It's more suitable for berlina 2 volumi e mezzo or berlina 3 volumi. Materials must be more advanced. A lot of hot stamped steel with doors, fenders and hood made of aluminium. Interior must be spacious, more spacious at the back seats compared to current Giulietta. And interior design language and also infotainment system and all buttons must be identical to Giulia/Stelvio. And snout on Giulietta is huge. Even Tipo has around 6 cm shorter snout. But IMO. In the plan transmissions are bottle neck. There is no transmission for transverse application which can offer both speed and smoothness as ZF 8HP. ZF 9HP is not the one, DCT is also not a choice. Maybe a wet DCT.
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    https://seekingalpha.com/article/4065765-fiat-chrysler-automobiles-nv-fcau-q1-2017-results-earnings-call-transcript?part=single Sergio Marchionne - Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NVRichard, the conservative over here, says he's going to make money in Q4 with Alfa. So I'm just going to shut up and wait for him to deliver the numbers. I think it sounds reasonable to me, but for the year we won't be.
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