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I thought that they changed postion of intake and exhaust when they updated GEMA to Tigershark? Maybe it's a good block but it's huge with 96 mm bore spacing. If I'm correct Pratola has 90 mm bore spacing while FIRE is extremelly compact with 77 mm. I'm also not sold on idea for big 2.4 I4. I would much rather see 2.5 I5.
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I think they did a remarkable job with this engine regarding fuel consumption in such a big and heavy vehicle. Fuel consumption is on par with renewed VW Tiguan with 184 HP 2.0 TDI and 7 speed DSG and that VW is weighing about 300 kg less. I expect that 2.0 Multijet will be updated to 2000 bar CR system and be bored out to 93.8 mm.
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It's not impossible. It's a matter of will from FIAT's side. Maybe I wasn't clear. I want see this car with 2.2 JTD under Abarth badge to take on Škoda Octavia diesel vRS.
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I would like to see a new 2.2 JTD in this one paired with ZF 9HP.
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Is that just me or it seems that suspension travel is very limited?
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I expect aluminium for Giulia at least for doors, fronte and back of the car. That will significantly reduce weight of the vehicle while retaining of good NVH properties thanks to steel body. Full Aluminium body like in new Jaguar is mostly nthing more than a good marketing because you loose weight gains with more usage of isolation if you want to achieve good NVH. CFRP roof will be just icing on the cake for new Giulia and will be excellent fit in goal to have more centered and more down mass distribution.
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This new 4cl engine will be 2 liter and is member of new MGE (Medium Gasoline Engine) family which will share combustion chamber design. I'm wondering if we are going to see more than one engine block designs for that family. Even GM these days or their 2.0 ECOTEC Turbo use different blocks, some are lost foam casting and some sand casting and maybe some even a high pressure die cast. So it will not be a weird if FCA choose different blocks for same engine family. FIRE will be substituted very soon.
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Compatriot will not use a V6 engine. As you all know new 2.0 turbo is coming verry soon. So with car with up to 4.5 m (or even just 4.4 m) of length future Jeep/FIAT twin can be more spacious inside than KL.
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Some rumors said that they will keep Caravan nameplate but it will be a Chrysler Caravan for cheaper versions of this vehicle.
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I know it's for Turkey but I can't get it why 5th door for sedan look alike can be a drawback. But it's sure that classic sedan is almost non wanted in EU28 and it would be nice if they can offer FIAT 'Octavia'.
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Yes, this car has to be spacious inside with huuuge luggage compartment. But you omitted something. In terms of sales Jetta was a failure in the last decade. Segment(C-segment with 'tail') leader is Škoda with Octavia and guess what, it has 5th door.
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It's always the same story. It's not question how much they can pump from 2.0 liter gasoline engine. Question is how low can they push maximum torque figure. Can it be for example 400 Nm at just 1400 rpm or even lower? 2.4 at least it its last iteration with 210 ponies was very potent and durable. It was an excelent engine paired with overweight car (159) and paired with lacking M40/F40 transmission which limited torque to just 320 Nm in 1st and 2nd gear.
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Yes, it's a FPT's 7 speed dual dry clutch for up to 250 Nm which is offered in China.
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I'm hopping they will finally offer C725 in Europe with 1.3 JTD and 1.4 Multiair.
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IMO, vehicle width is not so important because it can be easily altered, for me track width is what matters. So I looked at track width dimensions for some FCA vehicles. track width front/rear Bravo - 1539 mm Linea - 1473/1466 mm (same for Grande Punto although it has shorter wheelbase) Viaggio - 1572/1570 mm 500L - 1521/1519 mm (500X has wider track width, somewhere around 1540 mm if I'm correct) Giulietta - 1554 mm And now for some competitors: Golf 7 - 1549/1519 mm (same for Škoda Octavia although it has longer wheelbase and has wider exterior) Megane - 1547 mm Focus - 1544/1560 mm Based on this numbers I think we can say that FCA's SUSW platform is suitable for C-segment car.
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I never said contrary but both are modular. Small platform or it's SUSW derivation is perfectly suitable for C-Segment car.
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I don't get you. So you have prejudice about FIAT's definition of modular platform but not for VW's? I don't have any concern about future C-segment FIAT models. We are not talking about Linea which was just a stretched Punto, this platform is also widened. So I'm 100% sure we will not see a disaster similar to Škoda Rapid.
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Do we talk about modular platforms or not? Do you have prejudice regarding Passat B8 is on Compact(MQB from Golf 7) platform or not? Yes, FIAT made confusion with naming platform Small or Compact. But if you look wheelbase or track width dimensions for 500L or 500X they are very close or on par with VW Golf so platform derived from them with some modifications is a C-segment platform.
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