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45 minutes ago, Tony ramirez said:

non so se già postato, interessante articolo tedesco.

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/alfa-romeo-giulia-bmw-3er-test-10825807.html

They are talking about comfort but where is a measurement? 

5 hours ago, RiRino said:

Questo qui dovrebbe essere lo schema del renegade/500x con la sospensione posteriore mcpherson/chapman, il compass dovrebbe avere il 2 link e mezzo utilizzato sul toro(simile a quello del doblò)

 

 

 

 Brazilian press release says McPherson in the rear for Compass. IMO, with bi-link it would have bigger boot space than 410 liters.

On 9/26/2016 at 3:59 PM, MacGeek said:

Per chi chiedeva delle prestazioni:

 Interesting but for some markets in technical data for 180 HP ATX it says 7.1 s fro 0-100km/h.

5 minutes ago, stev66 said:

Yes but the platforms would be different: Tipo is made on FCA Small wide LWB, Compass is made on  FCA Small wide 4x4 .

 Same platform but not identical... But for me it's interesting due to possible Chrysler compact model from Toluca based on Tipo. Maybe something with interior similar to this Compass and independent rear suspension as on Compass. Compass has McPherson IRS same as Renegade/500X.

Interesting. Identical wheelbase as Fiat Tipo. Both are at 2636 mm.

http://motorchase.com/en/2016/09/fiat-presents-the-new-firefly-gse-engines-in-brazil/

For 60-100 km/h Uno 1.3 is faster than Up! 1.0 TSI:

http://www.car.blog.br/2016/09/novo-fiat-uno-2017-10-e-13-firefly.html

4 hours ago, xtom said:

 

In termini di numeri mica tanto.

 

Vendite Renegade 2015:

 

- Italia    23.096

- Europa 53.940

- USA     60.946

 

Fonti:

http://www.unrae.it/files/TOP_50_dicembre_2015 _56977e5615988.pdf

http://left-lane.com/european-car-sales-data/jeep/jeep-renegade/

http://left-lane.com/us-car-sales-data/jeep/jeep-renegade/

H1 2016:
http://left-lane.com/european-sales-2016-first-half-small-crossover-segment/

http://left-lane.com/us-sales-2016-first-half-subcompact-suv-segment/

US + EU ~ 92k

For EU Compass will come from Mexico. It means no import tax. For example for Cherokee there is a 10% import tax because it's a from USA.

1 hour ago, v13 said:

 

you're comparing horse power with ethanol, while the value expressed using gasoline is slightly lower, 101 hp. (Which is, by the way, the exact same value as €6 Honda's 1.3 with nearly identical displacement)

Honda 123 Nm at 5000 rpm
Fiat 135 Nm at 3500 rpm

Video is still there:

On 9/5/2016 at 5:02 PM, reckoner00 said:

Alfa's plans get fuzzy fast - Autonews

 

http://www.autonews.com/article/20160905/OEM04/160909985

 It seems they just re-posted a lot of that from English media. I just saw what they said about future Dodge models and time-frame. For me it seems like they at AN were left with no "source" inside FCA.

5 hours ago, Dallebu said:

Alcuni dati trapelati relativi ai 1.0 e 1.3 GSE:

 

1.0 3 cilindri, 6 valvole, Sohc con variatore di fase - Potenza massima 77cv - Coppia massima 110 nm

1.3 4 cilindri, 8 valvole, Sohc con variatore di fase - Potenza massima 106cv - Coppia massima 147 nm

 

 Those are numbers for ethanol or gasoline?

When they will substitute FIRE and E.TorQ in Europe? I mean if those are numbers for gasoline that 1.3 could easily replace even a 1.6 E.TorQ and due to torque figures it could be paired with 6 speed manual unlike E.TorQ.

http://www.automotivebusiness.com.br/artigo/1316/fiat-coloca-109-cv-no-uno-13-gse

FCA, por sua marca Fiat, corre nos últimos retoques na evolução do Uno, a versão GSE. Sigla de Global Small Engine, nova geração mundial de motores de pequena cilindrada. Começa com duas versões: 3 cilindros, 1.0 e projetados 80 cv, curva de melhor torque na categoria – a grosso modo torque move o carro nas cidades –, e 4 cilindros, 1.3 e a surpreendente potência de 109 cavalos – novo GM Onix com motor 1.4 gera 106 cv, e VW Gol 1.6 104 cv. Para comparar motores, veja quantos cv produz por 1.000 cm3 de cilindrada. Quantidade maior indica modernidade.

http://www.automotivebusiness.com.br/artigo/1316/fiat-coloca-109-cv-no-uno-13-gse

FCA, por sua marca Fiat, corre nos últimos retoques na evolução do Uno, a versão GSE. Sigla de Global Small Engine, nova geração mundial de motores de pequena cilindrada. Começa com duas versões: 3 cilindros, 1.0 e projetados 80 cv, curva de melhor torque na categoria – a grosso modo torque move o carro nas cidades –, e 4 cilindros, 1.3 e a surpreendente potência de 109 cavalos – novo GM Onix com motor 1.4 gera 106 cv, e VW Gol 1.6 104 cv. Para comparar motores, veja quantos cv produz por 1.000 cm3 de cilindrada. Quantidade maior indica modernidade. 

Brazilians said that production of GSE has already started and that it will be available in Uno starting next month. Article is more than 2 weeks old.

http://g1.globo.com/carros/noticia/2016/08/fiat-inicia-producao-de-nova-familia-de-motores-que-inclui-um-3-cilindros.html

1 hour ago, CuoreSportivo86 said:

Secondo me avrà il 2.0 Turbo della Giulia.

Anche perché se fosse stata la solita 1750 TBI con una diversa mappatura sarebbe uscita molto prima....

 

Comunque ci starebbe bene una bella 6C sfruttando la stessa vasca. In USA andrebbe a ruba.

IMO only 350 HP version of GME makes sense inside of 4C QV.

1 hour ago, alederme said:

 

si parlava anche di uno step a 330/350cv ad ogni modo sarebbe come dici tu

anche se poi la serie4 pesa un 50kg più della serie3, speriamo che Alfa non cada un questo errore

 

 Series 4 GC weighs more than Series 3. Series 4 weighs less than Series 3.

350 HP versions of GME is certain for USA. 

Stelvio production is almost 100% prepared. It's not question can they produce it, it's a question when they want to start production. 

IMO, Alfa needs to maximum exploit presence of electrical turbocharger via their marketing.  

Electrical superchargers needs a 48V electrical installation. As I said numerous times before. I expected electrical supercharger with 48 V on 350 HP version of GME.

41 minutes ago, domby said:

Su Quattroruote di Agosto c'è la prova completa

☏ ALE-L21 ☏

 
Vmax, 0-100 km/h, peso?

1 hour ago, alederme said:

 

tanto è vero che audi fece una A6 lwb solo per la cina, perchè la A6 normale gli pareva piccina.

Chinese people are very well known as very tall.