Bare

And still it doesn't have much with 0-100 km/h time where weight is more important.

I made some comparison between Bravo and Tipo with similar motorization.

Bravo 1.4 16v 90 HP - 12.5 s - 179 km/h

Tipo 1.4 16v 95 HP - 11.5 - 185 km/h

Bravo 1.6 JTD 90 HP - 13.1 s - 173 km/h

Bravo 1.6 JTD 105 HP - 11.3 s - 187 km/h

Tipo 1.3 JTD 95 HP - 11.7 s - 183 km/h

Bravo 1.6 JTD 120 HP - 10.5 s - 195 km/h

Tipo 1.6 JTD 120 HP - 9.7 s - 199 km/h

For me this is a great success that a car that is 20 cm long and must comply with newer ecological norms has better performance. Process of weight loss was successful.

From autocar.co.uk :

2016 Fiat Tipo 1.6 110 Multijet II review

Early first drive of Fiat's forthcoming Tipo reveals dynamics that fall short of the class best, although quality and comfort impress

What is it?:

You’re looking at the new Fiat Tipo, or thereabouts, the car with which Fiat is set to make a return to the mass market C-segment – and in a big way.

The car you see here, a functional, compact three-box saloon, forms the basis of a new three-car family that Fiat has created for Europe, the Middle East and Africa.

First to be released is this saloon, badged Aegea in the Turkish market in which it’s built. For the UK and mainland Europe, however, Fiat is reviving the Tipo nameplate (from the late 1980s and early 1990s) and has set up additional five-door hatch and wagon versions to be sold alongside the four-door.

While the Aegea/Tipo saloon is out now, the coming hatch and wagon editions are set to appear at the Geneva show next spring, ahead of an on-sale date in the UK next September.

At a private showing at Fiat’s Design Centre in Turin, we’ve seen all three versions of the new Aegea/Tipo series. While the hatch and wagon remain officially under wraps, the Aegea saloon is now ‘live’ (it was actually unveiled at the Istanbul Motor Show back in May). We’ve also had a spell behind the wheel.

Designed around the brief ‘Skills not Frills’ and claiming to provide class-topping roominess, boot capacity and value for money, Fiat’s newcomer is based on the same platform as that used by the Jeep Renegade. Up front, there’s an orthodox mix of 1.4-litre (94bhp) and 1.6-litre (108bhp) petrol Fiat group engines, along with 1.3-litre (94bhp) and 1.6-litre (118bhp) Multijet II diesels.

Expect the coming Tipo hatch to be Focus-sized (although a touch narrower), while this Aegea saloon, with more than 500 litres of boot capacity, stands a lengthier 4.54 metres from stem to stern. The Tipo wagon is just a fraction longer.

At a time when Fiat is dividing up and reassessing its model range as either ‘aspirational’ (500, 124 Spider) or ‘functional’ (Panda and Doblo), there’s no doubt into which camp this new Aegea/Tipo falls.

What's it like?:

The first thing worth noting is that in appearance, for a supposedly bread and butter model, the Aegea is surprisingly upscale. The front end, dominated by the attractive full-width grille, narrow headlights and sculptured bonnet, packs the kind of premium look that was never seen on previous Fiats in this class.

Much the same can be said for the elegant tail end, with its sloping rear glass, and sculptured roofline. The Aegea was designed in Italy first and foremost as a saloon; it’s not a converted hatch with boot tacked on. If the sides and, in particular, the rear door and glass area, with Hofmeister kink, carry echoes of BMWs past, buyers out there probably won’t complain too much.

Through the streets of Turin, along the autostrada and up through the hills of Asti, the Aegea proved to be a solid if unremarkable car to drive. That’s with the top 1.6 turbodiesel on board and standard six-speed manual gearbox (automatic and dual-clutch automatic options are also available).

True, there was good pace from the gutsy 1.6 engine, but the lack of steering sharpness through turns was a surprise. So too was the amount of road noise, especially from the back of the car. The gearchange was also mediocre. Maybe the 1.4 petrol (which we didn’t try) would do better, being lighter on its feet and traditionally quieter.

Comfort, though, was good, but even if the Aegea is a fundamentally well-balanced car, on this showing at least, its dynamics aren’t going to have the Volkswagen Golf, Vauxhall Astra or Ford Focus running for cover.

But Fiat has not set out to build a driver’s car. Instead the formula here is based around rationality, roominess, content, running costs and (an expectedly) competitive transaction price. The cabin is comfortable, the dashboard looks and feels good, the instruments are clear and interior and boot space are above average. There will also be two infotainment levels.

How much of this will carry over to the forthcoming Tipo hatch? Only Fiat insiders know for sure at this time. But with the hatch expected to command the bulk of sales (54%, compared to 28% for the saloon and 18% for the wagon), it’s a formula Fiat creatives clearly have to get right.

Should I buy one?:

You can’t, or at least you can’t yet. The new Tipo hatch and wagon are still the best part of a year away, and Fiat UK is still deciding whether to take this three-box saloon, which delves into a part of the market that’s had very little traction in the UK of late. So an opportunity, perhaps?

Our first time out with the Fiat Aegea/Tipo in Turin has revealed that style and comfort are good. It’s maybe not the most refined car out there, but it still has the makings of a decent all-around proposition as a straightforward family car.

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Ok,si in effetti Renegade è sensibilmente più pesante anche di 500x (prendendo come esempio per entrambe le motorizzazioni 1.6 mjet 4x2,ci sono 70kg di differenza,1395kg X,1465 Renegade)con il quale è più strettamente imparentato,immaginavo che il motivo fosse quello.

No,onestamente non ti seguo:pen:

si ma per un americano sono "grandi uguali", la differenza è impercettibile.

Officially Americans have interior volume to distinguish which class vehicle belongs?

Material-wise the Cherokee has more money in the cabin. Design-wise, the Cherokee is a huge step forward IMO.

Neither has "top level materials" if I'm understanding what you mean by that. Neither has Audi or the Giulia's quality of materials in some of its components.

Faurecia and MM already have a JV that supplies interior components for the Renegade

I was referring specifically to the styling and door panels, more "European/International" and less "American". I always find US interior designs and styling to be either cartoonish (Camaro, corvette, ford), or severely lacking attention to details (everything else).

tye interiros of teh cherokee are still too jelly-bean like to me, the GC lacks detail, the Dart and 200 look comical in many ways IMO. Too 1990s.

Yes, I know that it's Faurecia inside of Renegade. Question is is it a their top class interior or something else. You know what I mean. But Renegade for me looks better in interior than Cherokee and also it feels better.

I don't like that ventilation opening on center console (in most US brand cars) looks like in Korean cars. It's a major drawback for many Europeans.

Piacerà e sarà la prima Jeep con interni seri sia come materiali che come styling (alleluja). Cherokee e Renegade hanno fatto un bel passo in avanti, ma questa porta l'asticella più su.

I prefer Renegade's interior compared to Cherokee.

How they improved in Compass? Faurecia supplied interior with more German-like styling?

Allora...

Jeep Renegade --> 4,23 m

Jeep Cherokee--> 4,62 m

La 500 5p va all'80% a Tichy dato che usa la piattaforma mini.

We do not know that because plans are not clear. We do not know whether it will be a 500 5p or 600 or even both. In the first case that's substitute for Ypsilon and goes to Poland and the other one it's on SUSW and most likely candidate is underutilized factory in Serbia.

Quello non lo so, so per certo che c'è un fratellino del gattone da 500+ cavalli (V6 pentastar) che sarà il cavallo di battaglia per alcuni modelli più performanti. Essenzialmente come sta facendo la Ford.

Poi come dici tu, facevo notare in un'altra conversazione che hanno puntato molto sul nome "Hellcat" e non "Hemi XYZ"... Sembrerebbe che vogliano gradualmente allontanarsi dal discorso "Hemi" in modo che se faranno un V8 diverso (non-Hemi e quindi più pulito) potranno comodamente continuare a chiamarlo Hellcat. C'era il famoso V8 su base Pentastar del quale pero' si sono perse le tracce.

What are the plans with Jeep in China? They need modern turbocharged engines there. Magic numbers for China are 1.0, 1.6, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0 and 4.0.

ma quindi questo suv é su b wide ? Ma perché usano un piattaforma per una b per un c ?

Sono confuso sull'utilizzo delle piattaforme nel gruppo fca per i nuovi vari modelli.

Biggest market for Linea was Turkey. Biggest competitor there to Linea was Renault Fluence. So it's obvious, this Aegea 3v is built to take on Renault Fluence.

I don't know if someone already posted this.

Live stream: https://www.periscope.tv/w/aMfVYzIzNzYyMTR8MXlwS2RSa3dWbE5KV9eZLsGpQ3UdKkF9L1ovD8PnC8o1YNMJpBXemamrRizo

Did he said 7:39 time on 'ring?

I don't know if I correctly understood official Aegea's Turkish website. They still refers to it as a Project Aegea. But what's important is that it will have 5" UConnect and automatic single zone climate as a standard. And that's it. You can't add or drop options and you can only choose engine, transmission, internal look, external color and wheels.

More DCTs for FCA's vehicles? Oh yeah! Better performance than with manual and less official fuel consumption. DCT is surely way to go for achieving future EU commission CO₂ level. It's unfortunate that we'll probably won't get C725.

Pentastar upgrade for 2016 revealed

Chrysler has revealed the upgrades to the Pentastar V6 engine for 2016. They are not earth-shattering, and do not include direct injection; but they do strengthen an already highly competitive engine. In essence, the V6 has been lightened, retuned, and made both more fuel-efficient and more powerful.

Numerous steps were taken to cut pumping losses and internal friction, including switching to a new two-stage valve lift control setup (low valve lift for efficiency at normal speeds, and high lift for power when needed), using a new low-friction coating, and changing the valve timing system.

Changing components made the engine lighter, despite additional features. A different manifold boosted torque in the under-3,000-rpm range, where it spends most of its time for most people, and higher compression and other tuning increased horsepower by five in the Jeep Grand Cherokee, the only 2016 car to get it so far. See our Pentastar Upgrade page for more detail.

Direct injection is still rumored to be on the way, awaiting low-sulfur gasoline mandates in the United States.

http://news.allpar.com/index.php/2015/09/pentastar-upgrade-for-2016-revealed-29842

But to answer your question, last I heard they were looking at doing the Wagoneer on a midsize RWD platform...obviously the Levante platform comes to mind, it has been in development for more than I can remember now and Maserati would likely welcome a partner to recoup some of those development costs. And unlike the Durango, it has been developed for a luxury product, which is precisely what the GW is supposed to be. The question is: it's an AWD but can it do any Jeep-quality 4x4 offroading, or was it at least designed with that possibility in mind? Maybe that's part of the reason why the Leavante was delayed.

Funny enough though, the next GC was rumored to be on Giorgio. It could make sense if Jeep did some work on a new mid-size 4x4 Giorgio variant, to be used for the next Cherokee as well as the next GC.

As I said, there's no hurry...and indeed the next GC has been pushed back at least a year.

Levante is midsize?

For me main problem with Jeep version of any platform is reinforced floorpan. Every car with Jeep platform is somewhat overweight.

But it will be funny to see CDJ cars which can actually attack corners.

P.S

Your inbox is/was full.

Hmh,

AFAIK speed limits are still imposed so if this is true this car is capable for around 7:35.

Right now FCA has 3 RWD platforms in use, LX, WK2 and Giorgio. I'm wondering what will be with WK2. Will they abandon it with Grand Wagoneer?

From media:

Dodge Barracuda convertible, next-gen Charger among surprises for FCA dealers in Las Vegas

Up to 30 new or refreshed products coming within 2 years, they're told

The next-generation Dodge Charger, which resembles the 1999 concept (pictured here), will be based on the flexible rear-wheel-drive platform designed for the return of the Alfa Romeo Giulia, company executives told dealers.

Fiat Chrysler dealers meeting in Las Vegas on Tuesday were wowed by a parade of new products coming to their dealerships, including a Dodge Barracuda convertible and a swoopy next-generation Dodge Charger said to resemble a popular 1999 concept designed by Tom Gale.

Also in the mix, the next-generation Jeep Wrangler that, according to one dealer, “stays pretty true to its current form,” as well as a Jeep Grand Wagoneer luxury SUV with seating for eight.

The long-rumored Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT Track Hawk -- which is to be powered by FCA’s 6.2-liter supercharged Hellcat V-8 engine -- also was shown. Dealers were told that the all-wheel-drive Track Hawk would have a 0-to-60 mph time of 3.5 seconds. Not shown was a Jeep Wrangler-based pickup.

The dealer meeting, which was closed to the media, took place at Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino on the Las Vegas Strip. It included addresses from FCA’s multiple brand heads as well as remarks by CEO Sergio Marchionne.

The Barracuda convertible and next-generation Dodge Charger will be based on the flexible rear-wheel-drive platform designed for the return of the Alfa Romeo Giulia, which was first shown in Italy in June. It is part of FCA’s roughly $6 billion investment to resurrect and grow the Alfa Romeo brand to 400,000 units worldwide by 2018.

An Alfa Romeo SUV based on the platform was also shown to dealers.

Several dealers, speaking anonymously, were told that they would see as many as 30 new or refreshed products on their lots within the next two years. The next-generation Charger was especially well-received by dealers, dealers told Automotive News.

Also shown to dealers were coming Alfa Romeo and Maserati models, as well as a regular and Abarth performance version of the Mazda-made Fiat 124 Spider.

In his remarks, Marchionne sought to allay fears about how his call for industry consolidation would affect auto retailers, including FCA’s 2,600 dealerships in the United States.

He said efforts to merge FCA with another automaker was “not a slash-and-burn strategy.” Marchionne also assured dealers that a potential merger would not impact its brands, would not reduce the size of its manufacturing workforce and “does not require a rationalization of the distribution network.”

A potential merger, Marchionne said, “will not have an impact” on dealers, but instead will create a way “to strengthen the competitive position of the companies involved.”

Dealers gave Marchionne a standing ovation.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20150826/OEM04/150829921/dodge-barracuda-convertible-next-gen-charger-among-surprises-for-fca