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The existence of the configurator means that they did not sell all thirty three cars. However if I remember correctly Imparato claimed that they sold all 33 cars even before production. To be honest I think they sold probably 2-3 cars and do not know what to do now.
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- alfa romeo
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You forgot about american market
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- alfa romeo new stelvio
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This car appeared 5 years after the sketch was done. How the design of Pinin could be American? It's like to say that 2003 FIAT Panda has chinese look because Great Wall with similar design was made in 2008 And by the way, sorry for OT, the most american looking cars of 80s and 90s were designed by Italians, like Pontiac Transsport and Cadillac Alante by Pininfarina and Ford Mustang fox body by Ercole Spada.
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You should live there to understand. For instance every monday in a school (at age of 7 to 12), before lessons started, we had to report about political situation in the world. In the Andropov time, during day time on the working days, people were checked at the streets and asked to provide supporting documentation that they could not work (notice of illness, vacation, etc). But it was just minor interruption to the life. The major for instance were like underground nuclear explosion to put down a fire of natural gas well, just in 70km from the 1.5mln city.
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In the end of 70s Giugiaro promoted a research in which he described that people were not interested in a speed driving anymore and preferred exploring. He entertained an idea of the future SUV's (tempo libero), cars with all wheel drive and high sitting position. Model gamma of different manufacturers was built based on his research. An interest of the public to open cars in early 90s was temporary really unusual. However as the owner of the open car (Alfa Spider 1990) I can confirm the the driving with the open top is a real pleasure and not connected with any show off in front of public. The open top driving is individual pleasure that allows to be more connected to the surrounding world. I personally prefer to use Spider on the empty village and mountain roads instead of showing off in the city.
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Also, not long time ago, after meeting with Trump, Elkann sold part of his Ferrari shares for 3 Bln Euro. Was it a preparation for the acquisition of shares in a new company or just a prediction of the tariffs and stock market crash?
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If I'm not mistaken when IRI gave (transferred manufacturing and intellectual assets) Alfa to FIAT, IRI reserved the right to get Alfa back. Is it possible that Italian government will be a new owner of AR?
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Probably you are right, but Stefano Iacoponi mentioned new processes, compared to the previous models, that allowed to create a new model, Alfa SZ, just in 19 months. There is a chapter "Form Sculpted by Computer' in Alfa Romeo SZ book that describe the differences between processes used in the previous models and ES30 (page 42-51) The car used old processes required about 5 years in development. And this is exactly what happened with 164 which design development started in 1982
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Officially first Alfa Romeo car designed in CAD was ES30/SZ but the drawings of ES30 were crated on paper and then transferred to CAD. You can find the full story here https://www.instagram.com/antonio_castellana/
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I think transition to the digital design happened in early 70s (Giulietta was developed as a digital model) and fully digital dynamic model was created in 82-83 (again using Giulietta as a mule). Stola website can help to understand the timeline of the transition but big companies as Alfa or Mercedes or FIAT used computers from the mid 60s. Also this forum has a topic about Giulietta development, you'll be able to find some info there. And obviously digital development of the cars and Alfa can be found in SAE papers
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If I'm mot mistaken Pininfarina belongs to Mahindra Mahinrda with a headquarter in Germany, so it is not Italian company
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Yes, sorry, you are right. It has proportions of the car with front engine and rear wheel drive. With a space for the engine at the front (look at the distance between end of the front arch and A-pillar), position of the rear axle (no space for the engine there) and rear overhang to accommodate mufflers and diffusor. It has proportions of the the car with front central engine and rear wheel drive.
