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  1. Sicuramente la 8c ha un timbro più rauco e possente ai bassi . ma l'F430 è lancinate e metallico agli alti. il più simile alla 8c è quello maserati , chiaramente vi è stato tutto uno studio sulla linea di scarico per cercare di differenziare e ci sono riusciti ma alcune note sono le medesime ,specialmente ai medi e alti regimi.
  2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lPZT6BfiIg
  3. Prototype-S specification Length (mm) 4,585 Width (mm) 1,760 Height (mm) 1,480 Wheelbase (mm) 2,635 F/R track (mm) 1,530/1,530 Occupants 5 Engine 2.0-liter MIVEC*1 4-cylinder DOHC intercooled / turbocharged (MIVEC : Mitsubishi Innovative Valve timing Electronic Control system) Max. output 177 kW (240ps) Max. toque 343 Nm (35kgm) Driveline Full-time 4WD (with ACD) Transmission Twin Clutch SST Tires 215/45R19
  4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLycEbJkHv4
  5. Nessuna nuova informazione tecnica di rilievo. A riguardo è scandalosa la prova di 4R del 1,6 mjet visto che non analizza il nuovo propulsore, nessun accenno al materiale del basamento, nulla sulle differenze tra i diesel famiglia B vecchia generazione e i nuovi.
  6. Compatibilmente con la derivazione Gpunto deve essere per forza più bassa. Proviamo a indovinare l'altezza e la lunghezza? Dico la mia, 4,10 m in lunghezza e 1,47 m in altezza
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  8. difficile ancora dare un giudizio reale sull'altezza. Però ,viste anche le precedenti foto,non pare bassa come pensavamo.
  9. Venduta. According to a report from Automotive News citing Ford insiders, Indian Tata Motors will announce its purchase of Jaguar Land Rover on March 5 or 6. From what it seems, the sale has been set and the only thing left is to sort out some minor details between Tata Motors and Ford Motor Company. The article supports that the dates where agreed between Tata and Ford following the positive talks with UK trade union leaders last week. Roger Maddison, national officer of Unite, the larges trade union in the UK auto industry, told Automotive News Europe, “everything seems fine as far as we are concerned; it's just the lawyers working on it now." Da automotive news via carscoop Secondo i sindacati non vi è nessuna intenzione da parte di Tata di cedere la jaguar . La casa indiana , sempre secondo i sindacati, fornirà pieno appoggio al piano industriale presentato poco tempo fa
  10. pianale allungato EPSILON II, set up sospensioni specifico ma derivate dall'insigna, scatola sterzo e elettronica varia dedicata, motori a 4 cilindri di derivazione GM e fiat. Come versione di pounta un v6 H.F turbo da 350cv abbinato alla trazione integrale
  11. comunicato stampa ufficiale trovato su AUTOBLOG.com IN THE NAME OF RACING: MINI JOHN COOPER WORKS AND MINI JOHN COOPER WORKS CLUBMAN 02/24/2008 - Munich. A big name, a long tradition, outstanding performance, figures and an incomparable driving experience: the MINI John Cooper Works arouses motor racing passion which goes beyond the race track. In August 2008 the new model - produced at the British MINI plant in Oxford - will be coming to Germany along with the MINI John Cooper Works Clubman. With their world premiere at the International Automobile Salon in Geneva (March 6th–16th 2008), these versions are the first two models to be launched by MINI under the brand MINI John Cooper Works. The heart beating under the bonnet of each of the two new extreme sports cars is that of a racer. The 1.6 litre 4-cylinder engine with Twin Scroll turbocharger and petrol direct injection delivers 155 kW/211 bhp (207 hp US) and develops its maximum torque of 260 Newton-metres (192 lb-ft US) between 1,850 and 5,600 rpm – by means of overboost the torque can actually be increased to 280 Nm. (207 lb-ft US). The power unit is based on the engine of the John Cooper Works CHALLENGE, which will see its premiere at the MINI CHALLENGE 2008. It accelerates the MINI John Cooper Works in 6.5 seconds from 0–100 km/h, the MINI John Cooper Works Clubman manages the spurt in just 0.3 seconds more. It is not only the engines of the MINI John Cooper Works and the MINI John Cooper Works Clubman that provide genuine racing feeling. Both models are also fitted with extensive motor racing technology as standard: exclusive light alloy rims with especially light and extremely high-performance brakes, a new exhaust system and the modified 6-speed manual transmission, also created with close reference to the new racing car for the 2008 MINI CHALLENGE. Rarely before has motor racing expertise found its way so directly onto the road. The MINI John Cooper Works will be available in Germany at a price of 27,700 Euros, the price of the MINI John Cooper Works Clubman will be 29,500 Euros. (US Pricing yet to be announced) Fascinating power due to motor racing expertise. The MINI John Cooper Works and MINI John Cooper Works Clubman are driven by a true power package based on the current engine of the MINI Cooper S, extensively revised for the MINI John Cooper Works CHALLENGE racing vehicle and now back on the road with refreshed power. Even the basic design of the 1,598 cc 4-cylinder engine has details which are drawn from motor racing. The cylinder block and bearing housing are made of aluminium, the four valves per cylinder are controlled by two upper camshafts, friction-optimised cam followers and hydraulic valve clearance compensation elements. The outlet valves are filled with sodium so as to meet the increased cooling needs of a turbo engine. The camshafts of the 4-cylinder are composite. Instead of using the conventional die-cast procedure, the cam rings are made of high-strength steel and shrink-fitted to the actual shaft. The intake camshaft has a continuously variable phase adjustment function by means of which the valve control times can be adapted to the relevant performance requirements. The engines for the MINI John Cooper Works and the MINI John Cooper Works Clubman are made at the BMW Group engine plant Hams Hall (Great Britain) where the engine units for all MINI model variations are manufactured. In the case of the top-of-the-range engine, there are a number of special modifications to the production process to do justice to the increased output and the resulting higher temperatures in the combustion chamber, thereby guaranteeing maximum reliability of the drive system. The engines are fitted with reinforced and specifically ground pistons as well as a cylinder head with optimised rigidity and modified gasketing. The intake valves and valve seat rings are also made of especially resilient material, and as compared to the engine of the MINI Cooper S there is a slight reduction of the compression. More air, more power, more torque the formula for increased driving pleasure. The power increase as compared to the engine of the MINI Cooper S is mainly achieved by means of optimised air intake and outlet due to an adapted turbocharger. The air filter, air mass sensor, exhaust system and catalytic converter have been modified so as to achieve a power-enhancing dethrottling on the induction and exhaust side. This is also reflected in an engine sound which is peculiar to this model. Due to the adaptation of the exhaust system, a significant reduction of counterpressure is achieved. The MINI John Cooper Works and MINI John Cooper Works Clubman fulfil the requirements for adherence to the particularly stringent threshold levels defined by the exhaust norms EU5 in Europe and ULEV II in the US. The through-flow capacity of the clean air duct to the turbocharger has also been increased. The design of the Twin Scroll turbocharger enables an especially spontaneous power build-up. In the exhaust manifold and the turbocharger, the channels of two cylinders are separated in each case. The supercharger blades are set in optimum motion even at low engine speeds. A turbine was developed in very high-quality material especially for the MINI John Cooper Works and the MINI John Cooper Works Clubman, and the maximum boost pressure was increased from 0.9 to 1.3 bar overpressure. The maximum torque of 260 Nm ( 192 lb-ft US) is available even at an engine speed of 1,850 rpm and up to a level of 5,600 rpm. During acceleration, torque is raised to 280 Nm (207 lb-ft US) by means of a brief increase in boost pressure between 2,000 and 5,300 rpm. This overboost function gives the MINI John Cooper Works and the MINI John Cooper Works Clubman an even more powerful response. The engine reaches its maximum output of 155 kW/211 bhp (207 hp US) at 6,000 rpm. The spontaneous response is also reflected in the car's acceleration figures. The MINI John Cooper Works takes 6.5 seconds to accelerate from 0–100 km/h, the time required by the MINI John Cooper Works Clubman is 6.8 seconds. Both have a maximum speed of 238 km/h. Petrol direct injection: fuel is precisely measured and efficiently used. With a specific output of 132 bhp per litre of capacity, the MINI John Cooper Works and MINI John Cooper Works Clubman advance into the realm of the purebred sports car. What is more, both new models have the characteristic MINI quality of offering unique driving fun in combination with exemplary efficiency. The key function here is the fuel supply system. The turbo 4-cylinder is fitted with petrol direction injection according to the common rail principle. Injection valves positioned laterally in the cylinder head feed the fuel in precise doses under a pressure of 120 bar from the tank directly into the combustion chamber. This means that in every situation on the road, precise fuel supply is guaranteed which is adapted to the given load requirements. The average fuel consumption in the EU test cycle is at an unusually low level for vehicles of this output category. The MINI John Cooper Works makes do with 6.9 litres per 100 kilometres, the MINI John Cooper Works Clubman requires 7.0 litres. The respective CO2 figures are 165 and 167 grams per kilometre. Conceived for maximum driving fun: chassis, brakes, assistance systems. The standard range of features of the MINI John Cooper Works and the MINI John Cooper Works Clubman not only includes a particularly high-performance engine but also a wide range of other components which ensure that this irrepressible power is put safely onto the road. As is characteristic of MINI, the engine powers the front wheels. The MINI John Cooper Works and MINI John Cooper Works Clubman are fitted with a 6-speed manual transmission whose components have been adapted to the very high level of torque of this new top-level engine. In addition to the sophisticated chassis technology with McPherson struts at the front axle and the central control arm rear axle, which is itself unique in the small car segment, the electromechanical EPAS (Electrical Power Assisted Steering) is a further guarantee of reliable and precise handling. The electrical servomotor also contributes to efficiency in that it is only activated when steering support is required or desired by the driver. The steering system EPAS allows various settings to be programmed. The basic set-up guarantees balanced steering support depending on road speed. With the sports button, which is positioned as standard next to the gearshift lever in the centre console in the MINI John Cooper Works and MINI John Cooper Works Clubman, it is possible to activate a perceptibly more dynamic characteristic curve with higher steering torque and increased steering precision. In keeping with this, pressing the sports button also changes the accelerator pedal to a much sportier characteristic setting. The MINI John Cooper Works and MINI John Cooper Works Clubman are fitted with sporty suspension settings as standard. As an alternative, a sports chassis with harder damper characteristics and stronger stabilisers is available for the front and rear axle. For a more extreme racing orientation, there is also a John Cooper Works chassis available in the accessory range for the MINI John Cooper Works. It includes a lowering of the suspension by 10 millimetres, even harder damper characteristics and stabilisers with a diameter which is larger than those of the sports chassis. The standard sports brake system guarantees short braking distances and is characterised by precise response and fine controllability. The fixed calliper disc brakes with aluminium callipers finished in red inner vented on the front wheels and bearing the John Cooper Works emblem on the callipers – are large in their dimensions. The type and function of the brake system is based on those in the MINI CHALLENGE racing vehicle. The same applies to the exclusive 17-inch light alloy wheels in John Cooper Works Cross Spoke CHALLENGE design. Weighing less than 10 kilos, they are the lightest standard wheels within the competitive environment of the MINI John Cooper Works and MINI John Cooper Works Clubman. The high-speed tyres in 205/45 W 17 format have runflat properties, and both models are equipped with a tyre damage display function. As standard and unique in front-wheel-drive vehicles: DSC with DTC. In addition to sporty suspension settings and powerful brakes, the MINI John Cooper Works and MINI John Cooper Works Clubman also have sophisticated driving stability systems. Their standard equipment includes ABS, EBD (Electronic Brakeforce Distribution), CBC (Cornering Brake Control) and DSC (Dynamic Stability Control) including hill-start assistance and DTC (Dynamic Traction Control). By applying the brakes to individual wheels and reducing engine power, DSC applies a stabilising effect when required, intervening early on to prevent the vehicle from swerving at the front or rear wheels in especially dynamic driving situations or on slippery surfaces. The brake assistance function, likewise an element of DSC, detects emergency braking situations and ensures instant build-up of maximum brake pressure should the need arise. DTC is a sub-function of DSC which is available here for the first time in a vehicle with front wheel drive. It enables the response threshold levels of driving stability regulation to be increased so as to allow controllable slip on the drive wheels. In this way, the models MINI John Cooper Works and MINI John Cooper Works Clubman can be controlled on snow-covered surfaces or loose sand with slightly spinning front wheels, or taken more intensively to the physical limits in highly dynamic driving situations. When the threshold range is reached, the stabilising intervention of DSC is also guaranteed in DTC mode. If necessary, DSC can be entirely deactivated. What is more, in DSC-Off mode an electronically controlled lock function for the differential of the drive axle is activated. This system is also a standard feature and known as Electronic Differential Lock Control: it supports an ambitious, sporty driving style when accelerating out of bends and hairpins, for example. The electronically controlled lock function has the effect of applying specific, appropriate brake force to a spinning drive wheel on tight bends. This enhances the forward propulsion of the vehicle without having a negative impact on self-steering response. The bend can thus be taken more smoothly but also more swiftly. Interior: sports car ambience and a wide range of individualisation options. In the interior, the standard fittings of the MINI John Cooper Works and the MINI John Cooper Works Clubman boast a strikingly impressive elegance which is both simple and sporty in style. A three-spoke steering wheel in leather is the point of connection between the driver and his sports machine, while the anthracite roof liner and the interior surfaces in a glossy Piano Black finish create a calm atmosphere which promotes concentration on the road. Another feature of the two top-of-the-range sports cars is a speedometer scale which goes up to 260 km/h. In addition, MINI also offers a wide range of individualisation options for configuring the two new extreme sports cars. In terms of exterior paint finishes, interior design, seat upholstery types, interior colours and decor options as well as the comfort features, the full breadth of variety is available as for the other model variations. Additional comfort, versatility and sporty flair can be achieved with items from the extensive accessory range of MINI and of John Cooper Works. Ten exterior paint finishes are available to choose from for the MINI John Cooper Works and the MINI John Cooper Works Clubman. Contrasting roof finishes and roof decor options provide a wide range of possible combinations. The basic fittings of the interior include seat covers in the fabric Chequered. Optional extras include leather upholsteries, sports seats with fabric/leather covers, sports leather seats and Recaro sports seats from the John Cooper Works accessory program. The decor strips of the interior can be selected in Fluid Silver as an alternative to Piano Black. The accessory program also includes an interior strip in Carbon. The high-quality entertainment and navigation systems of the MINI equipment range are also available for the two top-of-the-range sports cars. The controls of the audio system with CD player as standard and the 6 ½ inch TFT colour display of the optional navigation system are situated in the central circular instrument. The standard AUX socket enables music saved on an MP3 player to be played through the audio system, for example. A special interface for full integration of an Apple iPod is also available as an accessory. For optimum and safe communication on the road there is an optional mobile phone preparation or integrated hands-free facility with Bluetooth interface and USB connection. An interface for integrated operation of the audio and telephone functions is also specially available for the Apple iPhone. Performance at premium level: John Cooper Works accessories. The highlights of the John Cooper Works accessory program include the aerodynamics package and sports chassis with springs finished in red for the MINI John Cooper Works, as well as perforated brake discs and rear spoilers for both model versions. Other items include a suspension cross-brace for the engine compartment, mirror caps in carbon finish and so-called side scuttles – direction indicator surrounds with a sporty grid structure. To match this there are also decor strips, handbrake handles and sports gearshift levers in carbon decor which provide an even sportier ambience. The gear shift indicator in the John Cooper Works accessory program also contributes to an intensive driving experience. With the John Cooper Works Performance components, the character of the two new models is given even greater emphasis and visually highlighted, too. Premium-quality sporty flair characterises them as it does the two new models themselves, both of which bear the John Cooper Works logo. The MINI John Cooper Works and MINI John Cooper Works Clubman have to be able to meet both the extreme challenges of the race track as well as the extensive requirements of everyday traffic in terms of functionality, design, reliability and durability. Together, the brands MINI and John Cooper Works stand for a promise of quality which is uniquely powerful within the competitive environment of MINI. MINI and John Cooper Works: shared roots in motor racing.The two top sports cars are sold through the MINI dealer network. Like all variations of the MINI and MINI Clubman, both models are manufactured at the MINI plant in Oxford according to customer wishes. In this way, the integration of the John Cooper Works label under the umbrella MINI is now also reflected in the range of vehicles available ex works. The close connection between MINI and John Cooper Works, based on a motor racing tradition stretching back decades, has a defining influence on the development of new vehicles and components. The MINI John Cooper Works and MINI John Cooper Works Clubman represent the shared values of driving fun, premium quality and individuality in an especially concentrated form. In terms of reliability, quality of workmanship and authenticity of design, they fulfil the high standards of the BMW Group, as do the John Cooper Works Performance components with their perfect adaptation to MINI. The new models are thus also subject to the warranty conditions applicable to MINI.
  12. è una loro ricostruzione ma dalle righe dell'artiicolo sì capisce che qualcosa hanno visto oppure gli è stato dettagliamente spiegato.
  13. Progetto parallello di propulsore Hcci + tecnologia ibrida realizzato a più mani. I due maggiori sogetti sono Lotus e continental divisione powertrain ma in realtà essendo inserito al'interno del progetto a più mani HOTFIRE((Homogeneous and Throttleless for Fuel efficiency with Reduced Emissions) i partecipanti sono molto più numerosi; INA, Siemens VDO, Loughborough Università e University College di londra. La vettura usata per i test è un opel astra e i risultati del nuovo propulsore vengono confrontati con il 1.800 cc di origine Il propulsore è un tre cilindri da 1.500 cc probabilmente ottenuto dal 1.8 ecotec 2 da 140cv montato correntemente sul modello eliminando un cilindro ( da confermare) e queste sono le sue caratteristiche complete; Cilindri : 3 cilindrata : 1.5 litri corsa : 82mm alesaggio: 88mm rapporto di compressione:10,2 presione pompa carburante : 200bar (continental) iniettori in posizione centrale (continental) Emissioni (NEDC): 149 g/km CO2 meeting Euro 5 Emission standards pompa elettrica circolazione liquido raffreddamento(- 2 % consumo) Camera di scoppio e testata rivista da lotus con collettore di scartico integrato, comando alzata valvole e variatore di fase continui sempre su progetto lotus ma costruiti da INA potenza : 160cv a 5000rpm coppia : 240Nm a 2500rpm - 4000rpm Mild hybrid motor output: 12kW Mild hybrid energy storage system: 60v supercapacitors 1.5 litri HOTFIRE a confronto con altri due propulsori GM. Comparison Table Performance Data g/km CO2 Torque Power Lotus/Continental Low CO2 3 Cylinder 1.5L Opel Astra 240 Nm / 177 lbft 160 PS / 118 kW / 158 hp Opel Astra 4 Cylinder 1.8L * 175 Nm / 129 lbft 140 PS / 103 kW / 138 hp Typical 4 Cylinder 2.2L DI Engine Not Applicable 220 Nm / 162 lbft 155 PS / 114 kW / 153 hp
  14. futura versione da 180 hp e 400 Nm di coppia in fase di sviluppo. Tale boxer diesel potenziato è previsto per una versione a nafta del' impresa STI. Previste emissioni di C02 pari a 155 g/km contro i 243 g/km del benzina ora usato
  15. maggiori dettagli dal solito Motorauthority: Peugeot has been using a range of BMW-sourced four-cylinder engines in its cars for years and now sister brand Citroen has confirmed its new models will also get the British-built engines. The engines come in several different flavours, including turbo and naturally aspirated versions, and range from 1.4 to 1.6L in displacement. Peugeot uses the engines to power its 207 and 308 models but Citroen hasn’t confirmed which of its cars will use the BMW engines. According to WhatCar?, the new engines will likely debut in the Citroen C5 by the end of the decade. In the Mini, the engines produce outputs of 120,150 and 175hp, and includes direct-injection and variable valve timing technologies. The key reason for the move is to allow Citroen to take advantage of BMW’s EfficientDynamics engine stop-start technology, which the French carmaker hopes to eventually roll out across its entire lineup. The system Citroen plans to use will be the same as the current design in the Mini, where the engine cuts out while stationary and restarts when the driver selects first gear.
  16. Uno studio simile è in corso pure in europa. Il giornalista che ha scritto il pezzo iniziale è bene che usi la penna per seminare. Un foro con la penna, un seme come si usava e si usa nell'agricoltura primitiva. the EU-funded ELCAT (Electrocatalytic gas-phase conversion of CO2 in confined catalysts) project (earlier post) wrapping up, the project partners took stock at a final meeting in Brussels. They agreed that the project had proven the feasibility of gas-phase CO2 conversion in a catalytic process that recycles carbon dioxide into liquid hydrocarbons and alcohols. However, they said that more work is needed before the technology can be put into operation. The idea behind the ELCAT project, which received around €85,000 in funding under the New and emerging science and technologies (NEST) theme of the Sixth Framework Programme (FP6), was born when researchers at the University of Messina, Italy, observed an electrocatalytic reaction which could be carried out at room temperature and atmospheric pressure: With carbon dioxide confined inside carbon micropores, and electrons and protons flowing to an active catalyst—noble-metal nanoclusters—gaseous carbon dioxide was reduced to a series of hydrocarbons and alcohols. The products of the reaction were surprisingly similar to those of the Fischer-Tropsch (FT) process. A process that could generate FT-like products in useful quantities—an outcome that cannot be achieved without some difficulty in the FT process—at room temperature and atmospheric pressure could help to considerably reduce carbon dioxide and at the same time generate new raw materials. However, this catalytic reaction created new problems, namely a quick deactivation of the catalyst and poor productivity. In addition, it is a case of gas-phase electrocatalysis, a phenomenon which has barely been studied by scientists, as the focus has traditionally been on the liquid phase. Three organizations are involved in addition to the University of Messina, Italy: Fritz-Haber-Institut der Max-Planck-Gesellschaft in Berlin, Germany; Université Louis Pasteur in Strasbourg, France; and University of Patras in Patras, Greece. The project partners are determined to continue their work, even though the ELCAT project is ends at the end of February. According to their estimates, electrocatalytic gas-phase conversion of CO2 could be ready for application in about 10 years, and could help to cut global CO2 emissions by 5%, complementing other strategies. Carbon storage has its limitations because there are space limitations and in this case, we try to convert this greenhouse gas directly to fuel. Therefore, it’s complementary. But I think it’s much better to convert than to store. —Siglinda Perathoner of the University of Messina Non è il solo progetto di recupero del CO2, altrettanto interessanti sono quelli dell'australiana EESTech Inc ( the Purenergy CO2 Capture System (CCS). This is supposed to be the world's first pre-engineered, modular CO2 capture system that can be retrofitted onto existing power plants or any large industrial greenhouse gas emitter. ) e della De Carbit(The DECARBit project is an investigation paid for by the European Union to study carbon capture technologies during the precombustion process of coal and gas. Norway is also part of the project, via SINTEF (Norway does not belong to the EU). Current carbon capture techniques, mostly post-combustion, use chemicals applied directly to the resulting fumes of combustion. This is an expensive and complex process. DECARBit tries a different approach: instead of capturing CO2, the idea is to capture as much carbon as possible before the combustion, which leaves a hydrogen-rich fuel. The idea is making carbon atoms form CO (carbon monoxyde) molecules which become CO2 with water (more or less like this: CO + H2O CO2 + H2). This leaves a much cleaner fuel, rich in hydrogen and it's actually a current process of obtaining H2. This is not the only carbon capture project SINTEF is working in: up to five concurrent projects are being coordinated by this Norwegian entity, together with the EU. Norway is a country pioneer in carbon capturing: back in 1996 Statoil used an empty natural gas reservoir to store CO2.) .
  17. trovata una parziale risposta, pare che in tal modo PSA possa usufruire dei futuri sviluppi BMW di tali propulsori .
  18. Eppure in principio si parlava di esclusiva produzione PSA, fu rifatto completamente lo stabilimento,proprio per ridurre i costi. Poi in seguito saltò fuori che la bmw riceveva il basamento e le componenti ma poi le assemblava in inghilterra, ora tutti verranno prodotti da Mini-bmw.Resta l'incognita del basamento, non viene specificata la provenienza.
  19. BMW will showcase a new diesel-hybrid powertrain in a new concept based on the X5 SUV. The two-mode hybrid system, co-developed with GM and Daimler, uses twin electric motors which can either be used to boost acceleration, charge batteries or as a generator to mutually power each other. The two-mode active transmission is based on an ECVT electrical continuously variable transmission. The two operating modes, one of which has been optimized for low, the other for high speeds, are supplemented by fixed transmission ratios.
  20. strano che PSA rinunci alla produzione dei 1.4-1.6 aspirati e turbo realizzati su un suo basamento.Dal 2010 iniz8ierà la fornitura del 1.6 turbo per la c5 e poi a seguire altri modelli ,infine verrà interessata la produzione peugeot
  21. Oltre ai rapporti coi sindacati dobbiamo mettere sul piatto pure le forniture Ford.In caso di repentino cambio di proprietà da Tata a sconosciuto, quale sarebbe la reazione della casa americana?
  22. ricordavo che la mahindra era interessata ad una delle 2 e credevo fosse la jag.
  23. La notizia viene messa in evidenza pure da Inside line che fa capo ad edmunds, non certo eva 3000. IL Insider: Jaguar Appears To Be Ugly Stepsister in Impending Tata Deal Una casa papabile potrebbe esere Mahindra. Però , pur non mettendo le sue intenzioni su carta la TATA aveva trattato con i sindacati.
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