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So what about that Giorgio Evo talk? Did they realize again (after stop of previous Maserati QP and Levante projects) that it's too expensive and not competitive in EV form? It's interesting that the Stelvio EV was almost ready in 2025 and they prefer to offer nothing (QV and Diesel don't feed the masses) for some years. Were they running in circles during the last year?

Yes. But nobody cared because it was different from everything else and they managed to build up an emotional connection to the car with the brilliant "Is it love?" campaign. That combined with trust in mother BMW. I followed the launch from day 1 and bought a new Cooper S in 2002. Experienced many teething problems and high fuel consumption. But also much joy and a great community in the first years. 😁

Yes, the circumstances have gotten worse. And Stellantis doesn't need the brand for anything. And the market is filled with too many brands (from China) and cars already.

Platform and part sharing is fine. But if you want to rebuild a brand, to conquer customers, you need an extra strong unique selling point, strong marketing and big budget. Like BMW did with MINI from 2001. With a half-baked attempt you only burn money. These new Lancias have quite similar competitors, so why should importers and new customers go for an unstable brand? The other route to get customers would be over very cheap prices like Asian brands did/do in the beginning. Needs long staying power.

I don't think they count different STLA Large versions separately. And whole Large won't be replaced. Rather Medium after the 2027/2028 launches.

It might look similar to the Grizzly – or the made quick logo-change mockups – but the Smart Car is AFAIK not US compliant and can't handle much power. So they would need big updates for the platform and a different engine. While STLA One is meant to go down to affordable B segment and – in my book – will replace Smart Car, normal CMP, EMP2, Small Wide and MP1 = 5 platforms. How are US taxes for Mexico, Morocco and Turkey currently?

The golden times of the German carmakers are over as well. The whole industry is in trouble and has to divide investments between ICE and BEV. I hope we'll know soon what happens with Giulia and Stelvio, but I think a new Giulietta is actually great news for Alfisti. Biggest segment that private drivers actually buy new.

That's correct for the whole STLA brand regrouping. It's more of an adjustment to reality than a change.

They have not. That's just your interpretation. In reality they have just shown a presentation slide of the planned range expansion. Same for Maserati. I don't know why some think it shows all upcoming launches. "More to come". Do you think the industry info about new Tonale in Melfi, insider info about new Giulia/Stelvio and recent official interviews were fake news? This was not a brand presentation for car enthusiasts, it was a company presentation for investors. I hope we'll get an Alfa Romeo presentation or deep interview with Santo Ficili soon.

Could also be Pandina, C1/2CV and 500e.

I think it's only a rough rendering as a placeholder. Same for the green Jeep or that low Opel.

Guys, it reads "more to follow". Don't be so dramatic! But if that "C-SUV" isn't the next Tonale but rather an Alfa Formentor or even Giulietta on STLA One — why do they call it SUV? Okay, they also call the Junior a SUV while it has the same height as an R5 or ID Polo … 😛

It's obviously STLA Small renamed before birth. The start date 2027 and application cadence on Peugeot > Opel > Jeep > Alfa makes it obvious. Small was intended for A-C segments in 2021 but moved upwards and got more capabilites like 800V in the meantime. Looks like STLA Medium is obsolete early. Three platforms: One, Large (to be renamed?) and Frame …?

Do you expect all the brands to present their strategic plans or even tangible models at that event? I don't. Time and attention are too limited for that. Might happen soon after though.

Comunicato stampa Via Stellantis. With possible production in Rennes, France.