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Strange that it doesn't offer more room, has so little space under the seats as a BEV only project.
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If you look at the website and check the voting system and huge jury, it's no wonder that the winning cars are not special exotics but rather common denominators: https://www.caroftheyear.org/
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Could be cool. But not launched in 2025. Official word is 2026.
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500 doesn't need an exterior style update, but they should use the occasion for a marketing bang. Some interior updates, latest infotainment. I hope they can get the Elettrica ready for summer 2025. They can launch it then with a late '25 Ibrida delivery. And with more competition (R5, Twingo and upcoming VAG models …) they should lower the price for the extra door.
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According to Mesonero (at Junior interviews) the design will be an evolution from model to model. Keeping the 3+3 signature in different forms. And he spoke about a closed Scudetto for the EV models, containing the ADAS. Maybe they have to change that plan if MHEV or REX versions come.
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Sorry! On-topic: The website shows only 22 Alpine "centres" in Germany. Do Renault dealers sell them too?
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Have checked a green R5 from the outside yesterday. It appears very short, like 500, because it's so stocky/chubby. Has a good stance on the wheels. Seating seems to be rather upright to make most of the room. Have to check the interior when the dealer has an open car in the hall.
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I don't think that Peugeot has priority. They just had ongoing product development when ex. FCA Italy needs time to catch up because it was dormant. You seem to forget the long development phase. And I don't get why people think that Opel is lower than Peugeot. They go head to head for different tastes. Exception is the Frontera, but Opel always had a cheap entry level (Agila, Karl) like also VW (Fox, Up) had. Why do the crossovers from Poland share more visible parts than C3/GPanda? Because they are a FCA/Manley project, who also thought the Tonale/Hornet doublet was a great idea.
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Any time frame for the 500e update? And are you sure the Grande Panda Hybrid is coming late? The engine/transmission is available now in general.
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The German Motor1 tester is pretty disappointed by the driving characteristics: https://de.motor1.com/reviews/739903/alpine-a290-test-leistung-preise/ He loves the design, but gives only 6.5/10 points in contrast to the 9.0/10 of the R5: https://insideevs.de/reviews/736829/renault-5-electric-2024-test/
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800 € for a > 40,000 € car is merely inflation, not a price hike. But it's not a reduction either. I don't think we see any strategy change by the new management (for Alfa, for EMEA) yet.
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The new base Minis are totally naked. You can‘t even pick a color. Try configuring. Edit: It seems like they pulled the prices down. Last time I checked the Aceman, you had to pick a 4000 € trim to get some decent options. Now you can start with the Classic Trim. I'd pick the SE (for 400 km range) with pack M and end up with 40,700 €. So quite cheaper than the Alfa Junior with Premium and Tech packs.
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They should give a visible signal for the hybrid/update. It’s five years old then. If not market it like a new generation.
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Compared the press release with the current price list from the German website. STLA marketing = Olivier François 😛 It's premium when you buy the premium package = speciale. 🙃 The entry level of the Mini Cooper doesn't feel premium and the entry level of the Mito was not premium either. It's more about the offered options. The Junior Ibrida is priced very sharply against similar equipped competitors like Ford Puma, VW T-Cross etc. Just the Elettrica is too expensive.
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I just saw that you had to spend 44,700 € for the 156 PS version before. So the entry price for that got 8,000 € cheaper. With less equipment of course. 136 PS EV is gone.