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Why sell Opel-Vauxhall? It's the best-selling brand in DE and UK while it can share everything with Peugeot (and Fiat for the low end). It's making good money.

We have to see if Lancia sells with premium pricing.

I don't think we have better knowledge or are smarter than the management. And I believe Tavares says things for a reason, to get some things moving.

The current numbers are the result of keeping high post-covid-prices (= margins) in a slowing market as long as possible. They have to adjust now, like Citroën already did for their entire range.

If I was CEO, I would have planned to close DS and Lancia from the beginning, and move Abarth under Fiat again. I think Chrysler and Dodge just need product. For Maserati has to be decided if it intends to be real luxury or high specced premium. Do they need high capacity by FCA/STLA or exclusive craftmanship by Ferrari? Moving down to D segment was a failure anyway.

The Tonale will have a short life anyway: 2022–2027, as they keep their "from 2027 only BEV" mantra.

Do you think it will switch to new engines with an MCA? EB3 Hybrid and new EB 4-cylinder* PHEV?

*upcoming STLA PHEV are this and not EP Prince, right?

Vor 13 Stunden schrieb Graziano68dt:

Besser als Avenger und 600, und das sagt viel über die Qualität der Polen aus.

I like the design but honestly: It's just a 1-piece hard plastic shell. The Polish doors are much richer, while still embarrassing to share the same part.

Another power step like 170 hp would be welcome.

Honestly, at the new competitors you wouldn't get a driver cockpit at all. Have a look at Mini Cooper/Aceman E, Volvo EX30 etc. In reality the screen backlight isn't as visible as on photos. I think no journalist complained about it.

The 3-hole design of the ibrida is better. But they should definitely offer some nice 19" wheels. And a lighter interior option please.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/consumer/volvo-ex30-owners-refunded-over-software-issues

I think the absence of the grille doesn't do the latest Volvo designs any favour.

That Chinese car has very bad ergonomics, tiny trunk for the space and dashboard ambience like a train.

That should also lead to better quality. No one has to rush to be the first.

July 9 according to a short video.

Strangely I like the steel wheels. Feels like a likeable "back to basics" approach. 😃

Great design! I prefer it by far to the C3. Design quality on par with 500e, much better than 600.

I prefer the exterior of the R5, these Alpine additions clash with the original lines. The side "intakes" are just corny. But I like the interior upgrades. While the R5 is fine, this adds some premium feel – in the front and back. Better than materials of the Junior. 170 km/h isn't much for a "racer".

When a sub-brand car is based so clearly on a main-brand car, why give it a different name? I think it's confusing. What does 290 mean? Why not A5 or something similar?

Good that Nicolas Hayek hasn't to witness this anymore. 🫣

I think a new name is coming.

And it looks like STLA Small will also replace CMP Smart Car for cheap vehicles after 2026. With Renegade and Opel 25k BEV in the works.

Opel launches the Mokka Hybrid 136 hp from 31,900 € in Germany. Interesting pricing, compared to the Junior from 29,500 €.

Vor 26 Minuten schrieb KimKardashian:

Aber ist es nicht Zeit für den Ruhestand für diesen Kerl?

Please no! Let Alfa have steady leadership for once.

I had a yellow Mito from 2009 for 8 years. Loved it. A change to dark headlights and foglight areas plus lowering a bit did wonders. Too bad the facelift came so late and small.

It's interesting how much more useful space they got out of the Junior by a couple of cm in length and height. I hope the Junior won't get hard like a Mito when lowered 3 cm. If you compare the standard equipment and infotainment of the two, they are worlds apart – explaining the price contrast.

I think that the live experience is very different to pictures. Cameras tend to lighten up screens while the whole instrument cluster looks black in real life. Similar to red leather seats which look pink on pictures/videos.

Vor 13 Stunden schrieb Nucarote:

Für mich ist das zentrale Tablet unter den Lüftungsöffnungen im Jahr 2024 peinlicher.

This position is actually much better with ergonomics for a touch screen. You don't have to raise your arm high up. Keep in mind that important information will get mirrored to the instrument screen.

I can't confirm this. Where do you base this on? Opel is seen here as a normal mainstream brand, like Ford, Peugeot, Skoda or Hyundai, not low-cost. Any finer model depends on the model. Opel can be cool (Adam, current Mokka) or economical (Karl, Crossland/new Frontera).

Most likely Opel's version of C3/Panda/Uno.

Vor 13 Minuten schrieb machefredfa:

Ja sie

Wird Manta also ein Low-Cost-Zeug sein?🤦

No, why should it? It's not the 25k € car.

The Manta (on STLA Medium) project is making progress, has not been stopped and there's also a 25,000 € Opel BEV in the works.

https://edison.media/opel-faehrt-gradlinig-in-die-zukunft/25247529/

https://www.lifepr.de/pressemitteilung/axel-moerer-funk-und-martina-kefer/opel-chef-unsere-e-autos-werden-noch-guenstiger/boxid/988253