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Our friend Olivier confirms to El Mundo that three new Fiats (SUV, Fastback, Pickup) will arrive in the next 18 months.

And he hopes other Stellantis brands will produce A segment cars in Pomigliano. And he's close to retirement. 🙃

As much as I like special elements like this on Alfas, you see that it needs a fat plastic block to face forward. So I prefer the middle version here.

No reports from Filosas Mirafiori "town hall" talk here?

I hoped to read some more details here. At least more than the short summaries like these:

https://www.facebook.com/Stellantis/posts/pfbid02uApC8LwUEdsKesUJHaSfq6ww3DLTA58PjZ7YkWhp7cZA2iP4mWmWAKsGt31EJqLHl

 https://www.motor1.com/news/763899/stellantis-tells-employees-stop-saying-ex-fca-workers/

The difference between Giulia and Stelvio treatment is interesting – if true.

If there's no fundamental design changes needed to include hybrids: Why can't they do a 500/500e stunt and bring the new generations as BEV while keeping the current ICE generation until the HEV are ready?

ICE are nice for old-school Alfisti, but I'd say the current and coming premium D-segment market (80% company sales/leases) in Europe is pretty much BEV orientated already. Can't they have parallel production in Cassino?

Maybe the BEV need more work as well …

Nice photo on his wall anyway.

Right. Until then:

In the near-term group pipeline: 1.6 EP HEV, 2.0 GME EVO

Also available for evolution/resurrection and application: Hurricane T6, Nettuno V6, GSE T4 …

Yes, I hope 1.6 HEV is coming soon, as Imparato indicated. A PHEV is too expensive for the mid-range. I doubt they start developing brand-new engines for Europe. Wouldn't be here before 2030+. Better update what you have.

Do you think the global design boss has much influence on the actual designs? I see the role more as a manager with the brand design leaders defining the style. While Gilles seems to have a more direct role in Detroit additionally. He has overseen all Jeep design before and still the design of EU and NA Jeeps is pretty different.

Second design boss seems to be gone, but the different design centers (Torino, Detroit, Paris …) have heads anyway.  And Maserati is integrated into the Euro brand organisation, which makes sense for joined management and development with Alfa. General direction: More regional decisions.

The brand CEOs stay of course.

This color combination looks way more maritime. The roll bars are of the Mini cabriolet, right? Can you close the roof somehow? I wonder about the waterproofing of the interior and specially cockpit/infotainment.

Is there any event on June 24? I only saw the museum activities next weekend.

They could always show a concept for something that doesn't hurt current sales. Some special series for the anniversary. Or the Tonale MCA if it's in production after the summer and not six months away.

And President Elkann is based in Italy anyway. Good choice.

I hope the current Benzina versions have a comeback to sell in low numbers and Alfa manages to push brand emissions down with Junior and Tonale. There won't be big updates for a 1–2 year lifespan.

1 ora fa, nucarote scrive:

Bevor wir mit der Tangente beginnen, habe ich die SUSW nur als Analogie zu der Tatsache angeführt, dass sie aus einer Plattform für das untere Segment geschaffen wurde. Wie sollte es mit dieser hypothetischen Version von Small für das C-Segment passieren.

STLA Small was planned for lower C segment from the get go. See presentations from 2021.

1 ora fa, The Krieg scrive:

Un comunicato stampa per una pubblicità su un tram?

I think they used the tram as a hook to announce the 40,000 orders.

4 ore fa, effecube scrive:

Quel triangolo mi ricorda il logo quadrifoglio...

True. And the link says /world-premiere.

I hope these rumours are not true. If they do a major restart now, there won't be product until 2028 at least. Alfa will lose the American market. And in my opinion the BEV versions have to be top-notch, as non-EV sales in D segment and above are shrinking very fast now because most are sold/leased as company cars in Europe. Look how many BEV BMW sells already. Also in America Alfa appeals to rather progressive metropolitan customers and not truck drivers of the midwest. Bring the new BEV and keep the old generation until the HEV is ready. If the BEV is not competitive they have failed.

Vor 3 Stunden schreibt Osv:

A390 GTS

Imagine the outcry if the next Giulia had such a clumsy profile. I'm really curious if Alpine succeeds.

Doesn't say much without context. Is there a chart somewhere with comparison numbers?

Junior shares the platform with Avenger/600/… but has its own chassis and steering setup. So that might be a disadvantage in this specific test. Other testers praised the driving behavior (also non-Veloce) to be best of class though. 🤔

Vor 1 Stunde schreibt Beckervdo:

Genug. Sie haben das Forschungs- und Entwicklungszentrum in Göteborg sehr tief verwurzelt.

Doesn't look like they used it for the EX30 with horrible "screen-only" ergonomics.

No matter how it looks, how are the market chances? EV-only model of a brand that only sold exotic sports cars in tiny numbers so far. This as a newcomer has to compete 1:1 with the Chinese.

I like the general design, but the lights at front and rear appear very sleepy. And I hate the huge triangle at the C pillar. 🙂

If the whole launches are postponed incl. BEV, do the current cars stay on the market until then – with all engines?

There's certainly no MY updates to expect after this sudden change of plans. I just hope the BEV versions are not outdated when they finally arrive.

Vor 21 Minuten schreibt A.Masera:

 

Weitere Allianzen mit den Franzosen?

 

Wenn wir Autos nur in Europa verkaufen wollen, vielleicht. Aber meiner Meinung nach müssen wir uns der Welt öffnen.

French state and unions can not want too close ties between Stellantis and Renault because every shared project would obviously mean a reduction in needed French workforce. That would only make sense as the last rescue solution before lights go out. 

Has anybody heard about a Junior Q in the works? Allegedly a hybrid. This could match the Abarth ICE talk by Olivier.

Must be priced under R5. Such a lazy masquerade, only a tad better than Tonale > Hornet.