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If I remember right, it's production for local African markets only. In contrast to Morocco. When EU and single countries start to subsidize only European BEV, the African products like Grizly will be at a bad place.

3 minuti fa, Jack.Torrance scrive:

Non credo proprio.
Ma probabilmente riceverà le versioni a catena, abbandonando la cinghia.

If the switch from EB2 Gen 2 to Gen 3 didn't happen already, it will now. As for every new or updated model after mid (?) 2023.

I'm most interested in interiour changes. Will it get new door cards or at least softer plastics, less shared switchgear? If so, will the siblings get the changes early?

And will the Tychy BEV trio get a battery update like the EMP2 cars recently got?

Too bad they have absolutely no concept for FIAT in the USA. When they started it was "copy MINI". But FIAT never did the necessary investments and expansion.

If Alfa gets the C model an STLA Small and the next Tonale right, they'd have four models for the market, even without E segment. If tariffs allow.

41 minuti fa, 4200blu scrive:

No production during ramp up is not slower, the line have always the same speed, in an european standard assembly 60 or 90 seconds per work station. The difficulties of a ramp up you manage by higher worker density per station, not per different speed, especially in a mixed line where the different models have different SOP like in the case of the trio polacco, where Avenger was already inroduced long before Junior. You can be sure that there is a problem wirh sales if they cancel one shift from three. We can wait for the moment when they cancel also the second shift because the Trio Has clearly passed its peak.

Thanks for the explanation, interesting! If demand goes down, they have to adjust product/offer like everyone else has to do. I think the former PSA brands have managed longterm sales historically much better than the FCA brands.

37 minuti fa, 4200blu scrive:

But eliminating a shift has nothing to do with increased manpower requirements during a start-up phase. During start-up, you simply run a higher worker density at critical cycles per work cycle. Eliminating a shift, on the other hand, is clearly a question of the required sales volume that is no longer there; otherwise, you don't eliminate a shift.

But if production during start-up is simply slower for the same output, couldn't that cross over the border from three to two shifts when everything runs fine and you don't need the full capacity? That said, I don't want to claim that sales of the trio don't slow down, It's just another factor.

14 ore fa, AndreaB scrive:

Junior già in calo...........

Who says that? The article only mentions "the products" as a unit. But if it is, it would be the normal turn of every modern Alfa: Highest sales in the first full year, then sinking. What Stellantis really needs to address without a doubt are the high list prices of the BEV versions. Only sellable with high rebates against cheaper competitors. Lower entry prices and bring 1.6 MHEV and 210 hp BEV for the mid-range. And bring new door cards for better quality feel ASAP.

In general I think you need more manpower for the launch phase than for the continued production. Could be totally normal.

The original Bobby Car color! 😀 I hope it's just an addition to the existing mint. But it has doors and fabric roof! That's not available yet, right?

JPI — is he really leading Maserati? Or rather a honorary CEO? I only see Santo Ficili in action. Apart from that, did JPI do harm to Alfa? The focus on BEV that leads to delays now was company mandate under Tavares, the Tonale on old platform was done already. How much freedom does a brand CEO have, when he's dependent on group platforms, powertrains, electronics?

As the butt is so damn high, could it have a split rear window like the Mercedes Sportcoupé?

And more closely DS #8, Lancia Gamma. What was the name for this platform variant with lower A pillar? MP2?

PRESS CONFERENCE ALFA ROMEO

Friday, January 9, 2026

8:40 – 9:00

Participants:

Santo Ficili, CEO

Cristiano Fiorio, General Manager BottegaFuoriserie

Eugenio Franzetti, Marketing & Communication

Max Sirena, CEO Luna Rossa

So what do we expect? New marketing campaign, special series, next Bottega project or Fuoriserie options?

I don't think Leapmotor has much more to offer than electric power modules and batteries. For sure not mechanics or driving dynamics. Read this to compare Grande Panda with Leapmotor T03: https://www.adac.de/rund-ums-fahrzeug/elektromobilitaet/elektroauto/guenstigste-elektro-kleinwagen-vergleich/

And don't blame the French for lack of Italian projects. It was FCA that decided to stop developing anything except 500e in the mid 2010s.

I still miss any proof that STLA Small is based on CMP though.

I like the interior apart from the two free-standing screens. Nice fabric, nice layout and seats. But why not a hood for the instruments.

Keep in mind that this is the top version. Probably 35–40,000+. The entry level might look drastically different.

Bottom line: All cars with local emissions are getting more expensive little by little to push customers into BEV/PHEV. No surprise here. I just hope the price crossing between BEV and ICE/MHEV won't happen at the current BEV price point.

So they'll show the Lancia Gamma this Sunday?

For Giulia context: The European market for premium sedans has been shrinking 19% from January to October 2025. Let's hope they find a good receipt …

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/verkehr/3er-c-klasse-und-co-keiner-will-mehr-premium-limousinen/?fbclid=IwY2xjawOzeyZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETBOYjZOMWVzQ2dUREoyOWJ6c3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHkfGjR2ejLu8k0eoXU701Xv4tCxcnp_ghwy6vTG8VXc2ETZndgwgIQFl2BC-_aem_qERTRQOeHPlGGRcP9IBpmw

On 18/12/2025 at 15:56, GL91 scrive:

E che senso avrebbe cambiare nome al Doblò? 😶

The model range just got bigger with this genius move. 🤓

25 minuti fa, xtom scrive:

Un po' scarsina come batteria la base, ma ti danno una Polo al prezzo di una Grande Panda

If it offers more than a 25k Big Panda the Fiat prices have to adapt. Has to be seen though. Could be very bare bone.

I hope STLA Small SP1 (208/Corsa) will offer 500 km WLTP. Do you think they'll also get entry-level ranges or is that left to Smart Car?

Great marketing by VW as always. They are building up excitement for a product like the 2nd coming of Christ that doesn't really offer more than existing competitors. Maybe the engines are a bit more economical and the loading is a bit faster than the CMPs and R5. ID Polo has the same height as Alfa Junior by the way, just not labeled as a SUV. Strange that the GTI has only a tiny bit more power than the next version. The price of the longer range versions will be crucial. That's where Stellantis fails. I'm sure it will be a solid success because of big brand trust, marketing, network and fleet contracts.

Seems to be a well researched article, while nothing shocking in there. While much needed mainstream models like the Smart Car family or Jeep Cherokee were started under Tavares already, the product outcome by Filosa will take time to shine.

"If nobody's driving a particular model, retail buyers won't know it exists without expensive advertising," he said, meaning that if consumers see a car on the road or drive it as part of a rental fleet they are more likely to take a closer look at it.

So true, the curse of small market share. And a reason why Alfa needs the B segment and unnecessary brand fragmentation should be corrected.

2 ore fa, libbio scrive:

ditemi che tutte queste "lodevoli" iniziative sono ancora degli strascichi del portoghese...vi prego ditemi che è così

Should be in responsibility of Olivier François. Still firm in the saddle. 😄

Same for other (non STLA) European products. Chinese seem to benefit from current system. But from 2026 you will get negative points for screen-only cockpits.

https://www.euroncap.com/en/press-media/press-releases/euro-ncap-announces-2026-protocol-changes-to-tackle-modern-driving-risks/

I guess they didn't want to become too dependent on VW — therefore another partner this time. And Renault needs more volume.

Is the Sport Speciale "Milano Cortina" at dealers already?

Yes, the ICE is simply the entry-level, decoy offer for the 500. Both Ibrida and updated Elettrica were planned to start in 2025, according to the Italian production plan. A cheaper Elettrica would push the upselling of course. And they might bring a facelift with the update.