17 ore fa, STEVEC scrive:

In my opinion (and my hope), we won't see a D-seg Alfa or a Maserati based on a chinese platform. The word "collaboration" doesnt necessarily mean "platform"

18 minuti fa, STEVEC scrive:

PS Where is Imparato? It seems like slowly, what a surprise (not), theyre removing him from the picture 😅

Even if there's talk about platform collaboration, it can mean electric/electronic platform and nothing mechanical.

Just wanted to ask the same! Busy negotiating in Asia? 😁

Nothing about the C hatchback?

I think It's rather a 500 5-door coming. All versions will happen on the same platform obviously.

But there's no need to hurry with the current generation. It just needs the electric LFP battery update with a price drop ASAP. And a stronger hybrid wouldn't hurt. The design is still strong, clean and fresh.

On 16/06/2026 at 19:15, GL91 scrive:

Andava tutto bene fino all'ultima frase 🫣

Relax, I see a cockpit hood in front of the driver.

We're living in times of extra long car lifespans (again). Everybody extends or renews existing models instead of new ICE generations.

32 minuti fa, falconero79 scrive:

si deve ringraziare Manley a cui alfa fregava meno di zero

It's easy to blame Manley who took over in 2018, but in reality the development of additional models must have been stopped much earlier. The Alfa Giorgio range was supposed to be more or less complete in 2018 to sell 400k cars.

I follow Alfa's path since around 2000 and their relaunch plans got torpedoed again and again by lack of money, long term strategy and continuity.

I think the wide c-pillar is because of cost savings: both versions share the doors with windows.

And as the slow engine rollout of Grande Panda must have been at least in part engine and gearbox production related, this should get out faster. If the factory can handle it. Wonder if they’ll add EU production later to get EU benefits.

Somehow this was designed before the Polo and it shows. "Back to classic VW" not applied yet. And a very non-dynamic pensioner mover, more like Golf Plus than Tiguan.

30 minuti fa, whitebyzantine53 scrive:

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/verkehr/opel-zukunft-naechster-astra-wird-ein-crossover/

This could be the base article: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-vauxhall-astra-confirmed-2030-less-traditional-shape

Huettl didn't say that Astra will become a crossover. He says that it could change form but keep Astra's strengths. And that they'll keep the wagon.

1 ora fa, STEVEC scrive:

Cappellano is talking about the New Tonale. Manta was scheduled for Melfi, and it was a D-seg car, sister model to the No8. For Pomigliano they assigned 2 compact cars, one Opel and one Alfa, according to rumors. It was also a rumor that they would be 2 crossovers (I did as well) but given that we now know the Alfa compact car will be a hatchback, that one probably wasn't accurate. The Leapmotor-Opel will be an SUV, not a crossover, and has nothing to do with any of the aforementioned models.

Cappellano is talking about both C Alfas. But the wording regarding Melfi is open for interpretation secondo me. But as there's a political meeting next week, things should be clearer.

The lines between hatchback/crossover and crossover/SUV are very blurry. Alfa Junior was introduced as a SUV while it has the same height as hatchbacks (R5, ID.Polo). Panda is called a hatchback while it's tall and riding high. Whatever the planned models for Pomigliano were, it was always unrealistic to expect the Astra to go south. I don't know any proper indication for that. Opel needs German presence and production to fulfil it's role. Rüsselheim needs product. And Italy isn't cheap either.

13 ore fa, STEVEC scrive:

I don't think so. Cappellano confirmed that there are no new models planned for Mirafiori (except Nuova 500) and the New Astra (or C-Cross) is one of the two compact models that were assigned to Pomigliano. Pomigliano will produce only A-seg cars from 2028

4 minuti fa, STEVEC scrive:

Given that the Opel model that was scheduled to be made in Pomigliano has moved to Russelsheim, I think it's case closed. You cant bring a new platform to Pomigliano just for one model. And in any case, theyve kept their promises: Piano Italia didnt promise anything new for Mirafiori, apart from Nuova 500 and for Pomigliano they promised 2 new models. They are coming, but theyll be A-seg cars instead of C-seg, which means that theyll sell in bigger numbers, which is good

The Astra was never planned to be made in Italy. The Pomigliano model was the Manta (on hold now) or C-crossover. The crossover is now made in Spain with Leapmotor.

I thought the Alfa hatchback on STLA One will also be produced in Melfi. This article seems to support that:

Agenzia Nova

The next Opel/Vauxhall Astra on STLA One will be made in Rüsselsheim again.

Comunicato stampa

Next Generation Opel Astra to be Designed, Engineered and Made in Rüsselsheim

• Exciting newcomer: the next-generation compact classbestseller Astra to be produced in Opel home plant Rüsselsheim

• At least four new Opel models by 2030

• grEEn-campus Rüsselsheim: New global Opel headquarters and Stellantis Germany home under construction

• More than €1 billion to be invested overall in Germany until 2030
   

RÜSSELSHEIM, June 8, 2026 – The next-generation Opel Astra, based on the new STLA ONE Stellantis platform, will be produced at its home plant in Rüsselsheim. As communicated by Opel CEO Florian Huettl during the Stellantis Investor Day, Opel plans to launch at least four new models by 2030. The newcomers include the next generations of the best-selling Astra and  Corsa along with the recently announced new C-SUV in partnership with Leapmotor. Meanwhile, Opel will continue to invest in existing models in its portfolio.

“The investment into the production of the next Astra generation in Rüsselsheim underlines the focus of Stellantis on Germany and the importance of Opel,” said Stellantis Enlarged Europe COO Emanuele Cappellano. “The C-segment, which accounts for approximately 30% of total car sales in Europe, is a substantial part of Stellantis’ European strategy to strengthen the Company’s market coverage in our region, as outlined in our FaSTLAne 2030 strategic plan.”

“The allocation of the next-generation Astra to our plant in Rüsselsheim demonstrates Opel’s commitment to Germany as an industrial location. I am delighted that Rüsselsheim will remain the home of the Astra and be built in the direct vicinity of our new grEEn-campus,” said Opel CEO Florian Huettl. “This investment is a clear sign that together with our social partners we can reach agreements that benefit all stakeholders.”   

“Opel and Vauxhall are important assets within Stellantis and fulfill a significant role especially within Europe,” Xavier Chéreau, Chairman of the Opel Board, said during his visit in Rüsselsheim today. “Made in Germany is a well-recognized quality label for customers worldwide and a defining strategic asset for Opel in the Stellantis group. This performance is supported by strong industrial foundations and high-quality social dialogue,” Chéreau added.

The German manufacturer is thus adding to current projects in Germany with total investments to reach more than 1 billion Euro by 2030 in the country. Opel and Stellantis Germany are already constructing a new, state-of-the-art headquarter building, the grEEn-campus Rüsselsheim. The new global Opel headquarters and Stellantis Germany home will offer state-of-the-art workplaces that are designed for flexible working and collaboration. Sustainable building materials are being used to ensure a good interior atmosphere. The power supply is provided by a photovoltaic system, which is integrated into a green roof. This not only contributes to biodiversity but also ensures a pleasant microclimate and helps the cooling of the building, which is ensured in parallel via a geothermal system close to the ground.

C-segment models have been a staple of Opel’s portfolio for 90 years. The success story that started with the Kadett in 1936 has been seamlessly continued with the current generation of Astra. With high-tech solutions such as the Intelli-Lux HD headlights and highly efficient powertrains including battery-electric, plug-in hybrid, hybrid and diesel the Astra – designed, engineered and made in Germany – caters for a broad range of customer needs. In total, around 25 million units of the Kadett and Astra have been sold to date.

Like the future Astra, the next generation of Corsa - an icon with more than 15 million units sold - will be based on the new STLA ONE Stellantis platform and will take another step toward making electric mobility accessible and even more relevant. The current generation Corsa has been Germany’s best-selling small car for more than five years and continues to lead the way in 2026.

And while the Astra and the Corsa represent two established products in the Opel line-up, the all-new C-SUV, announced to be produced in Zaragoza as part of the extension of the partnership with Leapmotor, will complete the coverage of the C-segment alongside the Opel Frontera and the Opel Grandland. This new vehicle will serve as a blueprint for efficient global collaboration: designed and created by Opel in Rüsselsheim and developed by international teams located in Germany and China. Simultaneously, it will enable the German manufacturer to take a major strategic step forward in terms of electrification and scaling in the shortest possible time with sales of the newcomer expected to start as early as 2028.

Via Opel.

Who says that STLA Large ist scrapped? I don't know about any other indication than the back and forth with Alfa and Maserati. That doesn't mean anything about American models and even for the Italian brands the outcome seems open still. The (smaller?) Dodge "Copperhead" won't have the hard points of the Charger. But what does that mean?

Dodge never used Giorgio in contrast to the original plan because it's expensive. In reality the Maserati projects (Quattroporte and Levante) on Giorgio Evo got scrapped some years ago and they can't offer their core models for many years for that reason. They allegedly moved to STLA Large and now back to Giorgio. It's all very confusing.

Yes, the Grand Cherokee seems to sit on an Giorgio-infused platform of the previous generation.

1 ora fa, whitebyzantine53 scrive:

No new info in this article, just guessing.

I don't know what Capellano said exactly, but that the Euro hybrid isn't the same as the American Hybrid could also mean that the transmission and electric parts are different, but still based on the 1.6 EP. But as the American FHEV generates over 200 hp a smaller engine is likely. Depending on the needed speed of emission reduction they should bring both 1.2 FHEV for B/C segments and 1.6 for C/D segments.

14 ore fa, cruzmaltino scrive:

Mi dispiace, non avevo visto quella dichiarazione sul sito web.

 

Comunque, è assurdo. Dimostra dilettantismo. Anche se volevano solo delineare brevemente i piani di Alfa Romeo, avrebbero dovuto sottolineare che hanno annunciato una C UV (senza il nome Tonale) e non hanno menzionato alcuna versione hatchback.

Yes, the presentation slides look like hastily cobbled together in parts. Lousy after so many months of preparation.

The model overview is meant to show only range additions in the second row. So C-hatchback would have been correct instead of C-SUV. As Tonale is already in the top row.

21 ore fa, cruzmaltino scrive:

In una dichiarazione, hanno affermato che la STLA ONE avrebbe adottato la tecnologia "cell to body", che permette di integrare le batterie nella struttura del veicolo.

 

Pertanto, si tratterebbe di una piattaforma completamente nuova.

Yes, it's a new architecture. But it's the renamed STLA Small project. Until a few weeks ago the new e-208 was announced to debut STLA Small. Now it's called STLA One. They didn't pull a different architecture out of a hat in the last minute.

Some appear to have memory of a mayfly here. 😆 This is the official roadmap, made clear on May 25, AFTER the Fastlane event:

Il brand beneficerà di piattaforme, tecnologie e propulsori condivisi per ampliare la propria presenza nei segmenti chiave, in particolare B e C, nell’ambito del piano Fastlane 2030:

• Junior sarà aggiornato nel corso del suo ciclo di vita e continuerà a competere nel segmento B-SUV, rivolgendosi a un pubblico giovane e dinamico e rappresentando una porta di accesso naturale al mondo Alfa Romeo con un prodotto ai vertici della categoria

• Verrà introdotto un nuovo C-SUV su piattaforma STLA M, con motorizzazioni multi-energia, per competere nel cuore del mercato: una vera Alfa Romeo, prodotta in Italia, progettata per distinguersi per qualità degli interni, prestazioni e piacere di guida

• Una nuova hatchback di segmento C, basata sulla piattaforma multi-energia STLA ONE, porterà tecnologie avanzate ed efficienza su tutte le motorizzazioni. In continuità con icone come 147 e Giulietta, combinerà innovazione e DNA distintivo del brand

• Sulla scia del successo della 33 Stradale, verrà lanciato un nuovo progetto esclusivo “few-off” di BOTTEGAFUORISERIE, volto a rafforzare ulteriormente desiderabilità, innovazione e connessione emotiva con i clienti

• Alfa Romeo sta studiando soluzioni per continuare a competere nel segmento D con nuove interpretazioni dell’attuale gamma composta da Giulia e Stelvio, restando fedele al proprio DNA orientato alle prestazioni e adattandosi all’evoluzione del mercato. Il brand farà leva su piattaforme flessibili per introdurre progressivamente soluzioni multi-energia, incluse motorizzazioni ibride ed elettriche. Maggiori dettagli saranno comunicati in una fase successiva

https://www.media.stellantis.com/it-it/alfa-romeo/press/dichiarazione-di-un-portavoce-di-stellantis

Are you sure the boxy version is shorter? In contrast to Frontera and C3 Aircross the FIATs are marketed as C-segment vehicles, not B. From the press release:

FIAT unveils the first official image of Grizzly and Grizzly Fastback, two new models designed to expand the brand’s global line-up and reinforce its presence in the C-segment.

Within a compact footprint of under 4.5 meters, they set a new benchmark in practicality, offering exceptional interior space and a best-in-class trunk capacity — a key element of their positioning.

Grande Panda is the boxy B-segment crossover already, with 600 as the elegant alternative.

Yeah, but Filosa and Gilles Vidal said the same already. They want more brand character.

It must. To exist next to the new C crossover and the 3008.

"Not just rebadging": Stellantis pledges distinct brands despite shared tech

Future models from the various brands that make up the Stellantis empire will be more differentiated despite the increasing use of common platforms and technology, according to the firm’s European boss.

Autocar

Please

4 ore fa, Bare scrive:

What a joke of a platform. Good luck with the new Tonale especially in US.

Please elaborate what's wrong with the platform. I only see it's not as versatile (for example for low cars) as it was intended to be. Missing engine options are not the platforms fault. And any platform is meant to develop further over time. Like CMP Gen2 getting multilink and 4xe.

35 minuti fa, Bare scrive:

I know that the next gen Jeep Compass for North America will be on STLA One. That's certainty.

The same for the European Jeep Renegade.

All other is pure speculation based on some indication.

STLA most likely will not be upgraded. Why would it be?

How do you know about Compass? Yesterday you were only speculating.

What is STLA? The cars on STLA Medium have to get updated to stay competitive. Even under Tavares cars got updated with new engines, transmissions, infotainment, e-tech, batteries etc during their lifespan. BTW in contrast to many former FCA models …

16 minuti fa, GmG scrive:

In pratica una CMP che vuole conquistare il mondo 😂

Is there any proof or trustworthy source about connections between STLA Small/One and CMP? If so, how much? The battery as a structural part of the construction is a huge difference already …

While I agree that STLA One will replace STLA Medium in the long term, M doesn't have to die in it's current form. There should be some evolution ahead for launches until 2027/2028 and later MCAs.

That new Alfa Tonale comes on Medium and "new Giulietta" on One indicates that the Tonale project is pretty far along and launching rather soon. I hope Tonale launches with 1.6 HEV. Might also have faster charging, with or without 800V.

While the STLA One variant for multi-energy, C segment SUVs or industrial installation (in the same plant) takes some time. Remember that it starts with B segment BEV only in 2027.

They can't offer many engine options for the small realistic sales target. And they have to offer what Italian companies buy/lease, not what car enthusiasts would like to see — because they wouldn't buy anyway. 1.6 PHEV and/or FHEV are most likely.

Wasn't there also claims that the C hatch will be sold in the US? Where was that said?